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<blockquote data-quote="mellored" data-source="post: 9246952" data-attributes="member: 6801209">Just some quick survivability math for the new moon druid to see how much they got nerfed.The sameCR (except level 2)savesSkillsattacks.Wild shape uses (less at low level, more at high levels)2024 gets+xd8 damage once per turn, + another 1d10 at high levels+can talk+cast selected spells, including a ranged cantrip+AC+Wis to Concentr⁠ation saves.+turn spell slots into more wild shape+teleport... for some reason.+stay in form even after losing (t)HP.They lose-a lot of effective HP-elemental forms-number of known form (need to preselect).Level 3, brown bear vs CR 3 knight.Knight has +5 to hit, for 10 damage, 2 attacks.Vs 201411 AC = Hit 75% of the time34 hp / 15 = 2.2 rounds of THP/bear form.*still has 27 Druid HP.Vs 202416 AC = hits 50% of the time9THP / 10 = 0.9 rounds of THP.+27 HP / 10 = 3.6 rounds of bear form.So you get to be a bear for 60% longer.But you have to heal between fights.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mellored, post: 9246952, member: 6801209"] Just some quick survivability math for the new moon druid to see how much they got nerfed. The same CR (except level 2) saves Skills attacks. Wild shape uses (less at low level, more at high levels) 2024 gets +xd8 damage once per turn, + another 1d10 at high levels +can talk +cast selected spells, including a ranged cantrip +AC +Wis to Concentr⁠ation saves. +turn spell slots into more wild shape +teleport... for some reason. +stay in form even after losing (t)HP. They lose -a lot of effective HP -elemental forms -number of known form (need to preselect). Level 3, brown bear vs CR 3 knight. Knight has +5 to hit, for 10 damage, 2 attacks. Vs 2014 11 AC = Hit 75% of the time 34 hp / 15 = 2.2 rounds of THP/bear form. *still has 27 Druid HP. Vs 2024 16 AC = hits 50% of the time 9THP / 10 = 0.9 rounds of THP. +27 HP / 10 = 3.6 rounds of bear form. So you get to be a bear for 60% longer. But you have to heal between fights. [/QUOTE]

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