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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9249714" data-attributes="member: 87792">All this is missing the core problem of the 2014 Moon Druid. The problem with the Moon Druid isn't TPK survivability - it's general and attritional survivability. And the knight illustrates the problem.The problem, simply put, is that the 2014 moon druid gets two wild shapes per short rest - and each bear form can on average stand up to two rounds of being attacked by a CR3 knight. That is for the use of a single resource of which they get two per short rest a 2014 moon druid can entirely negate the expected damage output of the first two rounds of an appropriate CR encounter for the whole party with no further consequences other than the lost of the short rest ability. The new moon druid might be tougher in the boss fights (as is being measured) but in the expected 6 medium encounter, 2 short rest days, a level 2-4 moon druid can probably soak the damage from most of those encounters for the entire party without dipping into their spell slots. Put a boss fight at the end and the druid can do that in human form with a complete set of spell slots, having saved everyone else's spell slots as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 9249714, member: 87792"] All this is missing the core problem of the 2014 Moon Druid. The problem with the Moon Druid isn't [I]TPK survivability[/I] - it's [I]general and attritional[/I] survivability. And the knight illustrates the problem. The problem, simply put, is that the 2014 moon druid gets two wild shapes per short rest - and each bear form can on average stand up to two rounds of being attacked by a CR3 knight. That is [I]for the use of a single resource of which they get two per short rest a 2014 moon druid can entirely negate the expected damage output of the first two rounds of an appropriate CR encounter for the whole party with no further consequences other than the lost of the short rest ability[/I]. The new moon druid might be tougher in the boss fights (as is being measured) but in the expected 6 medium encounter, 2 short rest days, a level 2-4 moon druid can probably soak the damage from most of those encounters for the entire party without dipping into their spell slots. Put a boss fight at the end and the druid can do that in human form with a complete set of spell slots, having saved everyone else's spell slots as well. [/QUOTE]

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