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<blockquote data-quote="mellored" data-source="post: 9250743" data-attributes="member: 6801209">I'm not sure what beast you think of when you take flying and tentacles, but doesn't sound like anything natural i know of.Agreed.&nbsp; Sword mage and valor bard are far less complicated.&nbsp; Which is why I think it would work best elsewhere.Barbarian who turns into a flying tentacle creature sounds a lot more appealing IMO.&nbsp;&nbsp; There is a lot more room there.<img src="https://149844032.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/image-2.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />One way to work like a wolf is to use the wolf stat block.Agreed.&nbsp; Really glad to see elemental form go.Agree that the game needs to scale the numbers (Including to-hit).&nbsp; But not necessarily &quot;CRA CR 1 wolf with +5 to everything would be on par with a CR 6 creatures.Just look at brown bear -&gt; polar bear.&nbsp; Straight number upgrade.I'll do some math to compare a scales wolf to a mammoth.Was it because of the attack bonus?IMO, this is the biggest issue of moon druid.&nbsp; The brown bear in particular.They did mention expanding the beast.&nbsp;&nbsp; I assume rebalancing will also happen.DESIGN&nbsp; NOTE: WILD SHAPE FORMS The&nbsp; creature&nbsp; statistics&nbsp; section&nbsp; of&nbsp; the&nbsp; 2024&nbsp; Player’s Handbook&nbsp; will&nbsp; include&nbsp; more&nbsp; Beast&nbsp; options&nbsp; than&nbsp; the 2014&nbsp; book&nbsp; contains.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mellored, post: 9250743, member: 6801209"] I'm not sure what beast you think of when you take flying and tentacles, but doesn't sound like anything natural i know of. Agreed. Sword mage and valor bard are far less complicated. Which is why I think it would work best elsewhere. Barbarian who turns into a flying tentacle creature sounds a lot more appealing IMO. There is a lot more room there. [IMG]https://149844032.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/image-2.png[/IMG] One way to work like a wolf is to use the wolf stat block. Agreed. Really glad to see elemental form go. Agree that the game needs to scale the numbers (Including to-hit). But not necessarily "CR A CR 1 wolf with +5 to everything would be on par with a CR 6 creatures. Just look at brown bear -> polar bear. Straight number upgrade. I'll do some math to compare a scales wolf to a mammoth. Was it because of the attack bonus? IMO, this is the biggest issue of moon druid. The brown bear in particular. They did mention expanding the beast. I assume rebalancing will also happen. DESIGN NOTE: WILD SHAPE FORMS The creature statistics section of the 2024 Player’s Handbook will include more Beast options than the 2014 book contains. [/QUOTE]

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