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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dysturbed" data-source="post: 5521626" data-attributes="member: 76857">I understand what you guys are saying about just making the reactions of the general populous of the game react to them differently.But I also think a chart and some rules about what the characters are doing wrong would be a good way to kinda keep track so you as the DM take note of it. It would also be useful for you as the DM to have a few roll-able charts to reference so the reaction of the general public/ group and the effect on the character is not totally up to you as the DM.taking your examples.For a GOOD Divine power based character (cleric, invoker, paladin) character going to Neutral.Roll 1d61-2   The party takes note of the change in the characters attitude. You tell the other characters about it.3-4   The characters prayers are not being heard by his chosen god for 1d4 days so his alignment can not go toward good.5      The character has a change of faith and decides his current god is not for him and goes toward neutral.6      i dunno what to use here.anyhow it's more of a thing for the DM to use as you can see. And it's a way to manipulate the characters behind the scenes. It also I guess wouldn't have to be limited to 4th ed. But that is what we play as a group. The process is also not instantaneous. Infractions depend on how crazy they only take a point away (maybe 2 for something really out there) on a 10 point scale.</blockquote>