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<blockquote data-quote="GMMichael" data-source="post: 7968051" data-attributes="member: 6685730">When would probably be at an initiating event, like first friend down, leader down, or discovering that the enemies have a cave troll.Better yet, though it's a little meta, is when a PC uses an action to intimidate opponents.&nbsp; That limits the amount of GM-initiated rolls, and puts the morale checks in the hands (initiative) of the PCs.I wouldn't normally want to use morale rules either, but GMs can get tunnel vision - trying to make opponents deadly before making them realistic.So the bad guys' character sheets don't provide a reference point?&nbsp; Interesting...So a leader could use an action, say Persuade, to keep a gnome in a fight?&nbsp; That's a good point - once you're hurting, if you're a person or a beast, fleeing becomes a really attractive option.&nbsp; Not so much if you're mindless.&nbsp; Also, it takes a friend or a leader to keep you around.&nbsp; No reason to stick around if no one needs you there.&nbsp; But if you're not hurting, you still wouldn't necessarily want to continue a hopeless fight.What about Willpower versus a PC's Persuade?&nbsp; Should that require a PC action (fewer rolls), or be automatic when a triggering event takes place (more rolls)?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMMichael, post: 7968051, member: 6685730"] When would probably be at an initiating event, like first friend down, leader down, or discovering that the enemies have a cave troll. Better yet, though it's a little meta, is when a PC uses an action to intimidate opponents. That limits the amount of GM-initiated rolls, and puts the morale checks in the hands (initiative) of the PCs. I wouldn't normally want to use morale rules either, but GMs can get tunnel vision - trying to make opponents deadly before making them realistic. So the bad guys' character sheets don't provide a reference point? Interesting... So a leader could use an action, say Persuade, to keep a gnome in a fight? That's a good point - once you're hurting, if you're a person or a beast, fleeing becomes a really attractive option. Not so much if you're mindless. Also, it takes a friend or a leader to keep you around. No reason to stick around if no one needs you there. But if you're not hurting, you still wouldn't necessarily want to continue a hopeless fight. What about Willpower versus a PC's Persuade? Should that require a PC action (fewer rolls), or be automatic when a triggering event takes place (more rolls)? [/QUOTE]

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