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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1922747" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>I'm having trouble following your logic, here.</p><p></p><p>Are you saying you prefer stories about the sequence of actions a person takes once they have decided on a course of action, or the process by which the decision has been made. I don't understand your last sentence -- you're saying that in our real lives we usually have to reconsider our courses of action, right? But what I don't get is if you are saying that in order to SUPPORT the idea of stories that do the same (ie: good stories resemble real life) or CONTRAST with the idea of stories that do not (ie: good stories do NOT resemble real life).</p><p></p><p>Again, I say that once there are no more moral decisions to make, all the interesting stuff is done. Obviously, if you are continuing to experience controversy within yourself, if you're still worrying about a decision, then you haven't entirely made up your mind, and thus there are still moral decisions to make.</p><p></p><p>Once there are no more moral decisions to make, a story just becomes a sequence of events without consequence. The high point of <em>Aliens</em> is, of course, "Get away from her, you *****!" -- which is precisely the point at which Ripley's decision-making culminates. She decides to put herself at the ultimate risk -- against an opponent she has already fled from, without any traditional weapons, having already sacrificed nearly everything she had (including her faith in her fellow man). From that point on the story is just the working-out of coincidence to determine the outcome. Everything that matters about the story comes in that moment -- we love Ripley for her courage right then and there, and even if she had failed and died, we would still love her. We just wouldn't be so keen on the world-view represented by the story, most likely.</p><p></p><p>But the entire movie builds up to that moment, and I don't know about you, but when I saw it for the first time in a theatre, at that moment, I'm pretty sure the entire theatre screamed "YEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!"</p><p></p><p>Because we watched somebody make a difficult moral decision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 1922747, member: 812"] I'm having trouble following your logic, here. Are you saying you prefer stories about the sequence of actions a person takes once they have decided on a course of action, or the process by which the decision has been made. I don't understand your last sentence -- you're saying that in our real lives we usually have to reconsider our courses of action, right? But what I don't get is if you are saying that in order to SUPPORT the idea of stories that do the same (ie: good stories resemble real life) or CONTRAST with the idea of stories that do not (ie: good stories do NOT resemble real life). Again, I say that once there are no more moral decisions to make, all the interesting stuff is done. Obviously, if you are continuing to experience controversy within yourself, if you're still worrying about a decision, then you haven't entirely made up your mind, and thus there are still moral decisions to make. Once there are no more moral decisions to make, a story just becomes a sequence of events without consequence. The high point of [i]Aliens[/i] is, of course, "Get away from her, you *****!" -- which is precisely the point at which Ripley's decision-making culminates. She decides to put herself at the ultimate risk -- against an opponent she has already fled from, without any traditional weapons, having already sacrificed nearly everything she had (including her faith in her fellow man). From that point on the story is just the working-out of coincidence to determine the outcome. Everything that matters about the story comes in that moment -- we love Ripley for her courage right then and there, and even if she had failed and died, we would still love her. We just wouldn't be so keen on the world-view represented by the story, most likely. But the entire movie builds up to that moment, and I don't know about you, but when I saw it for the first time in a theatre, at that moment, I'm pretty sure the entire theatre screamed "YEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!" Because we watched somebody make a difficult moral decision. [/QUOTE]
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