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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jian" data-source="post: 9742877" data-attributes="member: 78087">There are definitely gradations of what counts as magical mind control, so let’s lay out a few examples and my thoughts.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Improving your own persuasive skills. Hopefully doesn’t actually affect the other person’s mind at all. Probably not evil.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reading the other person’s mind in order to learn what might best persuade them. Intrusive and thus at least slightly evil but may be justified under the circumstances.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Charm Person: the other person suddenly regards you as their best friend and gives you everything you want (if they would do that for their best friend). Near complete removal of the other person’s autonomy, using their own mind to do it. Evil, and just awful. Even if you’re doing it to prevent a greater evil, that doesn’t prevent it from being evil. Two wrongs don’t make a right.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hypnotic Mind Control: You completely control the target’s actions, they do exactly what you order for the duration. Evil, of course, but I guess at least they’re not awake for it and might not have memories of complying with your every whim? Some targets might actually prefer this to Charm Person.</li> </ul>By the way, I’d say that Jedi Mind Trick is basically a very short term version of Hypnotic Mind Control. No, it’s not right, but it might be justified under certain circumstances. Avoiding Imperial discovery or preventing a massacre? Sure. Being annoyed that someone is trying to sell you cigarettes? No. But then, nobody accused Kenobi of being a moral paragon.</blockquote>

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