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Message: <blockquote data-quote="grimslade" data-source="post: 9742988" data-attributes="member: 6061">Jedi Mind Trick is more like the Command spell, a direct compulsion to the mind. The problem is, Old Ben Kenobi really likes using the JMT, like all the time. How do we know Ben didn't 'persuade' Luke about the 'truth' of the Jedi and his father? The problem with mind control is it is causes doubt in all the character does. It completely erodes trust. It is easy to see Obi-Wan as a master manipulator trying to revive a dying cult through mind control and indoctrination, from a certain point of view.The Charm Person spell specifically notes that the recipient is aware of the charm and is hostile to the caster. Mind Control is at best unsavory, and at worst a cardinal evil. Murder is wrong. Yet, soldiers are permitted to kill in war in specific ways. Self-defense is also a culturally appropriate way to kill someone. So you can do the same with Mind Control. There are culturally acceptable ways to dominate people. Perhaps self-defense, to prevent harm to another, to prevent harm to the victim of the spell? Are magical oaths and geas acceptable? How about the state? Can a Templar in Balic compel you to tell the truth? What about a cleric of Pholtus? The other thing is the "why do you know how to that?", question. Why did you feel the need to cultivate this knowledge? Just in case? Much like the ultimate recycler, the necromancer, people are going to think poorly of the Enchanter.</blockquote>

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