Mordenkainens mansion????

[drakshasak]

Well i just discovered something. This old fun spell is now a lvl 22 wizard Utility spell.

But i got to wonder. Why oh why isn't this a ritual. It totally fit the theme of rituals. it could be awesome as a party to decide. we dont wanna sleep in damn tent. we'll pay to have a friggin mansion to live in. and it would be awesome and cool. But what wizard would memorize this over spells like time-stop. Okay i admit i personally could do it out of sheer coolness but it would gimp me.

Soo i ask you guys. Why do you think it isn't a ritual and how could we make it a ritual.

I was even thinking about making some sort of range of rituals on different levels. (a shack, a small house, a mansion, a friggin castle).


Also because i really like the idea of summoning a place to live as a ritual. even in the heroic tier. It didn't even has to be extra dimensional it could just a small house where the guard could sit outside in a rocking chair and keep watch.

Well enough of my ranting. what do you guys think about this.

 

[Victim]

It's probably not a ritual because it comes off so quickly. Since the mansion comes up in a standard action, it makes a for a useful panic button and escape route: a losing party can quickly retrreat into the mansion to escape and rest.

Ritual versions could probably be quite a bit lower in level, since they don't have that feature. However, I think the availablity of safe rest magics was reduced deliberately, so players have less of a reason to rest all the time.

 

[drakshasak]

Yeah well im aware that it would take something like 10 minutes to cast so it wouldn't be usable as an escape method.

But then again i think its very weird to use magic to summon a huge mansion as a way to escape. that has to be able to be done faster.

I was thinking about making the first one at around lvl 5-8 range and let it be a little big better than a tent. thinking about something like a small cabin like you see in the woods. some beds a table and a fireplace.

 

[Lord Sessadore]

Like Leomund's secure shelter of 3.x? I really liked that spell, I wish it had come up in play A ritual for it in 4e would be pretty cool though - it wouldn't be a panic escape button, because it's an actual physical building, but it beats the heck out of sleeping in a tent!

 

[drakshasak]

Like Leomund's secure shelter of 3.x? I really liked that spell, I wish it had come up in play A ritual for it in 4e would be pretty cool though - it wouldn't be a panic escape button, because it's an actual physical building, but it beats the heck out of sleeping in a tent!

Thats precisely the spell i was thinking about making as a ritual. Because its in no way a powerfull spell or something that can be abused in any way. Its just cool. and the fact that even as a level 21 party who has just started on the journey to become a demigod. that are still confined to a tent in long journey where they cant teleport

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I think it's an utility power because Rituals cost money. It would be quite expensive to use the Mansion as a regular sleeping place, but I think it is supposed to be one.

It's also a nice retreat option, and a Ritual wouldn't be helpful at that.

 

[drakshasak]

Well i still think it should be a ritual.

I have made a suggestion for my very own version of the ritual here