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<blockquote data-quote="Imp" data-source="post: 3917495" data-attributes="member: 40094">I could see bards being good at mass enchantment effects, emotional manipulation, etc. while psions do the really deep stuff, the I-will-control-you and make-you-have-no-memory-of-what-you-did type of powers, but not really as much being able to move the crowd.&nbsp; Wizards still should be able to pull off charms, holds, suggestions of some sort, I think... it's not like their enchantment repertoire in core 3e is all that expansive anyway.&nbsp; I still really think they should have summoning abilities, though perhaps limited somehow, because it seems a huge part of being an arcane controller – I hope people are right about summoning just getting kicked away from the clerics.&nbsp; That's fine with me.Grease is a pretty silly spell.&nbsp; Maybe some movement-limiting arcane bog/quicksand would be a better idea, and more wizard-like as well.I like the distinction between spells and rituals.&nbsp; I always wanted to implement incantations in 3e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imp, post: 3917495, member: 40094"] I could see bards being good at mass enchantment effects, emotional manipulation, etc. while psions do the really deep stuff, the I-will-control-you and make-you-have-no-memory-of-what-you-did type of powers, but not really as much being able to move the crowd. Wizards still should be able to pull off charms, holds, suggestions of some sort, I think... it's not like their enchantment repertoire in core 3e is all that expansive anyway. I still really think they should have summoning abilities, though perhaps limited somehow, because it seems a huge part of being an arcane controller – I hope people are right about summoning just getting kicked away from the clerics. That's fine with me. [i]Grease[/i] is a pretty silly spell. Maybe some movement-limiting arcane bog/quicksand would be a better idea, and more wizard-like as well. I like the distinction between spells and rituals. I always wanted to implement incantations in 3e. [/QUOTE]

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