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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JRRNeiklot" data-source="post: 1499134" data-attributes="member: 717">I've been a member of C&C since just about the beginning, and, while, I llove most of the stuff they are doing, I am not happy with the ranger.  I will say this, however, if you are looking for a woodsman/tracker C&C has a damn good one.  It's just not my idea of a ranger.  IMO, the reason no one has gotten the ranger right, thus far, is because it was done right the first time.  Compared to all others, 2e, 3e, 3.5e, Monte's version, Monte's version 2.0, Necromancer Games version, Wheel of Time, Dragonlance, AEG, etc, etc - they all pale by comparison to the original, first edition ranger.  I doubt anyone will ever do one better, but then, no one has improved upon the wheel in long while either.</blockquote>