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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blacksad" data-source="post: 452749" data-attributes="member: 1359">umh, there is already a number of rule on that.IIRC creatures with a climb speed can use the best of their Str or Dex modifier.The lifting capacity is different based on your size and number of legs.Monster (or is it only small creatures?) can get for free weapon finesse on their natural weapon (that's why the cat is much stronger than the average commoner <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />).and I wouldn't allow dex as the key ability for jump, it doesn't seems right. I can see how skill or strength might allow you to jump farther, but I fail to see how dexterity would.I think that there is a number of rules on this in the introduction of the MM, but most of those aren't used with PC because there isn't many tiny sized PC races <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Somewhat agreed, though I suppose that the author wanted an ECL based on standard D&D (FR or Greyhawk) fantasy, with a DM that doesn't remove abilities.and you need a player who warn you in advance of any desire of multiclassing, for exemple a minautor (with elven blood<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) sorcerer might have a too high ECL, but if the player suddenly decide to become an arcane archer, the ECL just fit.So in the end, the ECL made with the worst min/max tricks are a lot more useful for the DM even if they restrict some character concept for the players, as you don't have to restrict the player any further during play.In this case if the player really want to play a minautor mage, FCTF with the big book of superpower might be the best trick to build a fair character.Now Kinomen Dragoon, where is our prestige class?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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