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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Khur" data-source="post: 4965181" data-attributes="member: 5583">Defiling is a new mechanic. It's not the new mechanic you and James Wyatt are referring to, though. That's something totally different.I fail to see how it's stupefyingly mean spirited, but that could be a semantic problem on my part. It probably would be asinine. I guess it's a good thing that muls and thri-kreen aren't in PH3, but in Dark Sun material. Didn't everyone already know that, though? I mean one race in PH3 is unrevealed, as was already pointed out, and muls are about as mainstream D&D as kalashtar are. That means the unrevealed PH3 race could be thri-kreen, but it's not.Doesn't everyone also know that PH3 is the psionics PH? That means you'll likely want PH3 if you want lots of psionics, rather than only what you can get from DDI, in your Dark Sun. I don't think that amounts to forcing anyone to buy PH3, though, and I don't think it's asinine or mean spirited either. I know you didn't say it was, but this extension seems like a reasonable correlation to your original point. If one wants all the psionics stuff in one's Dark Sun, one will have to buy PH3. (This is barring any access to the Character Builder, access to which would render the print location of any character element moot.)A campaign setting isn't the place for presenting an entire power source. It also isn't the place for re-presenting existing classes and races. So you'll need PH2 if you want druid and  barbarian mechanics, and you'll need PH1 if you want elf and dwarf mechanics. In all seriousness, do you think that's asinine or mean spirited? If not, why not, other than those books preceded Dark Sun? PH3 will be released before Dark Sun, too.That said, my playtest Dark Sun campaign is doing just fine without psionic-classed PCs, not that the players couldn't have chosen a psionic class. We have access to playtest PH3 stuff, too. The point is, my current campaign doesn't require that material for authenticity or fun. Nobody else's campaign will require any particular game element, either. So nobody would be forced to buy anything to enjoy Dark Sun. Dark Sun, as a game setting, would play just fine with just the PH, DMG, and MM on your shelf, and without muls or thri-kreen in the setting material. Of course, I'm glad it won't have to, because they're in there.</blockquote>

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