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<blockquote data-quote="Ripzerai" data-source="post: 5615575" data-attributes="member: 38324"><p>He's a fairly important character in that book, which refers to him as a "fiend lord" (it being the 2nd edition era) and has him rule a fairly intimidating realm of giant sandworms on the 333rd layer of the Abyss. He's far from the only fiendish ruler on that layer, though (though he's the only one named). He has a rival, apparently on the same layer but whose domain is accessible through a portal, who rules a realm of murderous actors endlessly reenacting the same masque. Salis Thik is crowlike in appearance, and doesn't obviously correspond to any of the nonunique tanar'ri types (he's not just a puffed-up vrock, for example). He actually lives inside a giant sandworm, but controls a territory around it.</p><p></p><p>He's not tremendously powerful, though. He's tough enough to control a fiendish army including a number of greater tanar'ri, but his army only controls a relatively small portion of his Abyssal layer, and an opponent who got past his bodyguards and magic protective wards would find him rather vulnerable. He's weak enough that I was somewhat uncertain whether he should appear on the list, but in the end he's definitely a demon and definitely referred to as a lord.</p><p></p><p>The 333rd layer is identified as the realm of the Krynnish god Hiddukel in Planescape and the <em>Fiendish Codex I</em> and as the realm of Orcus in H4 and 4th edition's <em>Demonomicon</em> hardcover. In <em>Abyssal Warriors</em> it is apparently neither of these, but it isn't given a name. It's simply called the 333rd layer of the Abyss, and it's inhabited by an unknown number of feuding tanar'ri lords, Salis Thik being the only one to be named. In theory, Hiddukel could live there somewhere, aloof from the politics of the warring tanar'ri.</p><p></p><p>J. Robert King's Blood War Trilogy is in general notable for its lack of research into or concern for the RPG canon. He pretty much made up whatever he wanted and ignored the game books (the exception is his depiction of Sung Chiang's realm, which is straight out of <em>Planes of Conflict</em>). Not worrying too much about RPG canon might actually be a good quality in a novel, if the books weren't such fail in their own right.</p><p></p><p>Because of the series' many continuity issues, the fact that it isn't at all clear when the novel is set (its events span almost 30 years of internal time, but don't fit in the present-day Planescape timeline; they might have occurred centuries ago, or possibly decades in the future), the fact that Salis Thik is a comparatively minor player in the Abyss, and of course the fact that he - spoiler alert! - dies in the novel, he's definitely not a significant part of the D&D multiverse. But it is a D&D novel, and there's a lot more detail on Salis Thik than there is on many of the other minor demon lords, and the continuity problems with <em>Abyssal Warriors</em> are less than the ones associated with the Rose Estes demon who also appears on the list, so I mentioned him for the sake of completeness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ripzerai, post: 5615575, member: 38324"] He's a fairly important character in that book, which refers to him as a "fiend lord" (it being the 2nd edition era) and has him rule a fairly intimidating realm of giant sandworms on the 333rd layer of the Abyss. He's far from the only fiendish ruler on that layer, though (though he's the only one named). He has a rival, apparently on the same layer but whose domain is accessible through a portal, who rules a realm of murderous actors endlessly reenacting the same masque. Salis Thik is crowlike in appearance, and doesn't obviously correspond to any of the nonunique tanar'ri types (he's not just a puffed-up vrock, for example). He actually lives inside a giant sandworm, but controls a territory around it. He's not tremendously powerful, though. He's tough enough to control a fiendish army including a number of greater tanar'ri, but his army only controls a relatively small portion of his Abyssal layer, and an opponent who got past his bodyguards and magic protective wards would find him rather vulnerable. He's weak enough that I was somewhat uncertain whether he should appear on the list, but in the end he's definitely a demon and definitely referred to as a lord. The 333rd layer is identified as the realm of the Krynnish god Hiddukel in Planescape and the [i]Fiendish Codex I[/i] and as the realm of Orcus in H4 and 4th edition's [i]Demonomicon[/i] hardcover. In [i]Abyssal Warriors[/i] it is apparently neither of these, but it isn't given a name. It's simply called the 333rd layer of the Abyss, and it's inhabited by an unknown number of feuding tanar'ri lords, Salis Thik being the only one to be named. In theory, Hiddukel could live there somewhere, aloof from the politics of the warring tanar'ri. J. Robert King's Blood War Trilogy is in general notable for its lack of research into or concern for the RPG canon. He pretty much made up whatever he wanted and ignored the game books (the exception is his depiction of Sung Chiang's realm, which is straight out of [i]Planes of Conflict[/i]). Not worrying too much about RPG canon might actually be a good quality in a novel, if the books weren't such fail in their own right. Because of the series' many continuity issues, the fact that it isn't at all clear when the novel is set (its events span almost 30 years of internal time, but don't fit in the present-day Planescape timeline; they might have occurred centuries ago, or possibly decades in the future), the fact that Salis Thik is a comparatively minor player in the Abyss, and of course the fact that he - spoiler alert! - dies in the novel, he's definitely not a significant part of the D&D multiverse. But it is a D&D novel, and there's a lot more detail on Salis Thik than there is on many of the other minor demon lords, and the continuity problems with [i]Abyssal Warriors[/i] are less than the ones associated with the Rose Estes demon who also appears on the list, so I mentioned him for the sake of completeness. [/QUOTE]
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