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<blockquote data-quote="lottrbacchus" data-source="post: 3624000" data-attributes="member: 48191"><p>This is a bit similar to rugbyman's post, but I wanted to make a new thread because I want opinions on how to go about this.</p><p></p><p>First, the problems we want to solve: </p><p>A) We are basically building an Underdark campaign, and many many creatures are very powerful as just the base creature. The Under-Dwarves and Gnomes and such all have gobs of powers. It seems to us that really only a few of any race would have all the powers. </p><p></p><p>B) We want to make as many races as possible playable from 1st level.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The solution we used first, as some folks said in rm's thread, is to use Racial Levels instead of ECL. You take a level of Drow, for instance, and you get more SR, 1 spell like ability, etc.</p><p>But we also added a HD, tends to unbalance uneverything. (Instead of a 1HD Drow with ECL3, you get a 3HD Drow at level 3.) So you have the gradual acquisiton of power, but end up being too strong. </p><p></p><p>If you don't give a HD, everyone would just want to keep the existing system where you get the goodies at the start and need 6000 exp to get your first class level (because then you would have all the powers to help you on your way).</p><p></p><p>Bloodlining it might be possible. But then a Drow with a Bloodline something else would be a nightmare.</p><p></p><p>Somone suggested having a limit on speed you can take the Racial Class levels. One quick thought is that it means any fully-powered whatever is going to automatically have loads of HDs!</p><p></p><p>(I hope any of that makes sense- I was having an ICQ argument/discussion with the other half of my team while writing and rewriting!)</p><p></p><p>Please discuss your thoughts and experiences in detail, thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lottrbacchus, post: 3624000, member: 48191"] This is a bit similar to rugbyman's post, but I wanted to make a new thread because I want opinions on how to go about this. First, the problems we want to solve: A) We are basically building an Underdark campaign, and many many creatures are very powerful as just the base creature. The Under-Dwarves and Gnomes and such all have gobs of powers. It seems to us that really only a few of any race would have all the powers. B) We want to make as many races as possible playable from 1st level. The solution we used first, as some folks said in rm's thread, is to use Racial Levels instead of ECL. You take a level of Drow, for instance, and you get more SR, 1 spell like ability, etc. But we also added a HD, tends to unbalance uneverything. (Instead of a 1HD Drow with ECL3, you get a 3HD Drow at level 3.) So you have the gradual acquisiton of power, but end up being too strong. If you don't give a HD, everyone would just want to keep the existing system where you get the goodies at the start and need 6000 exp to get your first class level (because then you would have all the powers to help you on your way). Bloodlining it might be possible. But then a Drow with a Bloodline something else would be a nightmare. Somone suggested having a limit on speed you can take the Racial Class levels. One quick thought is that it means any fully-powered whatever is going to automatically have loads of HDs! (I hope any of that makes sense- I was having an ICQ argument/discussion with the other half of my team while writing and rewriting!) Please discuss your thoughts and experiences in detail, thanks! [/QUOTE]
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