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<blockquote data-quote="Meeki" data-source="post: 5935727" data-attributes="member: 17257">Non-lethal damage is covered in the rules. There is no difference between lethal and non-lethal in this edition play test. The rules seem to use the 4th Edition way of dealing with non-lethal; which is when you reduce a creature to 0 or less hit points you can choose to knock them out, setting their hit points at 0. The only difference is you must declare first and the hit points are set to 0, even if the damage dealt would reduce the creature to less than.Depending on how the Reaper feat is interpreted, and what the actual &quot;Spirit of the Game/Rules&quot; are supposed to be, I think the Ray of Frost problem is a non-issue. If you read the description, the word &quot;still&quot; could, arguably, indicate that the feat only applies to attacks that deal damage. That's how I would read the feat, but it is vague and could be take either way.I would apply the same interpretation to the healing potion. Crusader's Strike could be used either way, only on actual hits or add into the miss. The wording is not specific enough, IMO. I'm not sure that's the fault of the Reaper feat.Spiritual Weapon is all sorts of wonky.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Meeki, post: 5935727, member: 17257"] Non-lethal damage is covered in the rules. There is no difference between lethal and non-lethal in this edition play test. The rules seem to use the 4th Edition way of dealing with non-lethal; which is when you reduce a creature to 0 or less hit points you can choose to knock them out, setting their hit points at 0. The only difference is you must declare first and the hit points are set to 0, even if the damage dealt would reduce the creature to less than. Depending on how the Reaper feat is interpreted, and what the actual "Spirit of the Game/Rules" are supposed to be, I think the Ray of Frost problem is a non-issue. If you read the description, the word "still" could, arguably, indicate that the feat only applies to attacks that deal damage. That's how I would read the feat, but it is vague and could be take either way. I would apply the same interpretation to the healing potion. Crusader's Strike could be used either way, only on actual hits or add into the miss. The wording is not specific enough, IMO. I'm not sure that's the fault of the Reaper feat. Spiritual Weapon is all sorts of wonky. [/QUOTE]

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