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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dice4Hire" data-source="post: 5038978" data-attributes="member: 55066">Well, I like 4E, but realism and 4E are not really twins here.4E is designed on a certain style of game, and that game is, as the OP said, a game of meeting even challenges. Sure, your Ac is 40, where it was once 20, but the monsters ahve +20 more to hit now as compared to then so it is effectively a wash. So, yes you cannot really put +10 or -10 monsters up against a party or it is a slaughter. (Though +10 has usually been TPK territory for most of D&D's history.)It is just how D&D is set up. The whole levels thing.Now, I like Deadlands a lot (classic, not d20 or revised) as you can be Awesomegreatcool with guns and skills and such, but you can still be put down by peons with shotguns. One bad roll an kill or main you. And that is how the game was set up to run, and characters tend to be a lot more careful because of it.  I do like Mustrum_Ridcully's idea of dropping BLB and such. I'll have to think on that a bit. Have an xp MR.</blockquote>