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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 6013055" data-attributes="member: 95493">I'm not sure if I WAS arguing for one minotaur, I have certainly had games where there was only one, but I did want to honestly add that YES I absolutely would prefer only one cyclops and one pegasus and one medusa as well as one minotaur if that is what it took to not make EVERY minotaur to be a random Baphomet cultist.I just don't get the reasons why they would want to make all minotaurs into cultists who became bigger and dumber.Perhaps it was because driders weren't well explained by greek myth.. but I like 4e's lolth driders because it fit lolth's insane obsession with her race. It seems the spiderqueen seems to meddle in their lives much more than Corellon Larethian or Moradin ever did for their races.But where did this idea about minotaur cultists come from?The fluff behind things often can be easily ignored. But I think it is essential that if they are going to put effort into putting fluff in the book that they put the right kind of effort. So even though it may not matter to you it certainly does to others.None of this explains where minotaurs come from. All minotaurs, in this case, were another race before? They are now cursed like werewolves and vampires? If so then make the minotaur into A. a variant of the lycanthropes and B. give me a template that can be easily applied to creatures in such cases.The problem with that of course is that it completely ignores the 1 minotaur type, as well as the minotaur as race type. It also missed the sweet spot in the middle that minotaurs have typically sat, as KM says, where there is more than one of them but not necessarily a whole flock.Once again I prefer your version to WotC, which is saying something as they are getting paid and trying to attract our business.Now that isn't to say yours is exactly where I want it but it AT LEAST has the benefits of not being a random cult. It also explains where the transformation comes from instead of a demon prince. And, as you seem to find important, it explains the rationality of why the minotaur exists. It is a curse not a blessing. The girl didn't petition the demon to make her into what she was, she was cursed by her father and dark rituals. Again, this specific interpretation isn't my cup of tea but it is much closer to the sweet spot that WotC should be aiming for.I just wanted to add that even with all I've said, I'm not sold on the ritual or intentionality. For me minotaur, as well as a whole host of other creatures, just are. The beholder wasn't a baker working on 5th street, he was an aberration from wherever I say, and that is fine for me. Either way I'll end up using a similar explanation for minotaurs when the time comes.But your version has the value of not requiring me to introduce a cult to Baphomet without reason, and without inspiration from previous editions (unless I missed something.</blockquote>

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