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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 803363" data-attributes="member: 7240">Re: slavery thoughtsDavid Argall saysI'm not entirely sure what you mean here. Do you mean that chattel slavery is the only kind we should consider? If so, you're picking a model of slavery much rarer than the other types we're discussing.Sorry. But you're just wrong. The Southern US is the only slave-based society in Western history in which slaves had no rights. Chattel slavery was generally practiced by Germanic barbarians outside the Roman Empire who were far less dependent on slavery than their neighbours to the south were.Roman and colonial Spanish and Portuguese societies in the New World were slave-based societies, absolutely dependent on slave labour. They gave slaves rights. Why?1. Slaves are less likely to collectively organize to escape slavery if they can individually escape slavery.2. More labour can be extracted from slaves if they are motivated to work hard in their spare time to buy themselves out of slavery.3. Society at large is less likely to have severe ideological and religious problems if slavery is not monolithically brutal. Note that the Southern US basically had to believe slaves weren't human to sustain the system and even then it had nowhere near the longevity of Peruvian, Brazilian or Roman slavery.You're telling me that Haida slaves and confederate slaves were allowed to buy their freedom?Again, I have to disagree. Outside of the Southern US, slaves were less likely to be used in dangerous labour. Why? Simple economics. The costs of slave labour are all up-front; if a waged labourer is killed in the line of work, no investment is lost. If a slave is killed in the line of duty, the future work of the slave (for which you have already paid) is lost.Here, I'm in full agreement with you.I think Tonguez also makes a great point that the Bible is a great place for one to draw inspiration for good slave adventures.</blockquote>

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