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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 805668" data-attributes="member: 7240">Matriarchy DebateOK Tonguez, I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. I'm not engaged in a discussion about who actually has the power in Mor's End. I'm engaged in a discussion about who the head of state is. By analogy, I'm asking "Who is the President of the United States?" not "Who runs the United States?" And therefore looking for the answer George W Bush, not George H W Bush, the Trilateral Commission or Dick Cheney. I want to know in whose name laws are made not the mechanism by which they actually come into being.The information you're giving me, while interesting and true, doesn't really help me in producing a mythic history. People whose faces are stamped on coins do not hold the title "castellan"; they hold titles like Lord, Lady, Duke, Queen. Now to be clear, I'm not saying that the ruler of Mor's End cannot be female; I'm not saying the ruler of Mor's End cannot be Lady Kelvin. All I'm saying is that I'd like to see a credible theory of how the line of Ladies Kelvin started and how succession is determined. I would, for instance, be happy to go with the theory that Lalato posted.But what you're proposing sounds like a completely different idea of who Lady Kelvin is; I'm open to that too but your definition of her begs the question -- who is the official ruler?</blockquote>