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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Little Raven" data-source="post: 808761" data-attributes="member: 10095">First off, it'd have to be at 2nd level, since that's when the combat trees begin. Secondly, you don't get all the benefits immediately. You get a SINGLE feat, then have to take MORE levels to get the rest of the feats.So, you want that Improved Two-Weapon Fighting for free, you need to take 9 levels of Ranger. In 3.0, you only had to take a single level of it, because your BAB is what allowed you to gain that virtual feat, not he class levels. They are tying the abilities to the class levels more directly, to avoid this very problem.And I've got a question for you... did you actually READ the listed changes? Increased skill points, showing rangers to have more proficiency with various skills. Improved favored enemy bonuses, which allow rangers to fight and hunt particular enemies more easily. Track while running... do I really need to detail why THIS is a good benefit for rangers? Wild Empathy... no clue, but I figure it will allow rangers to deal with wild creatures more easily.There you have several abilities, either new or improved, that fit the archetype perfectly.On a side note... as a wilderness scout/hunter, the archery style is perfect for a ranger. How many medieval/fantasy era hunters did not use a bow (unless they were hunting boars, of course)?And remember... the ranger isn't described as merely a wilderness scout... but a FOREST hunter and stalker..."The forests are home to fierce and cunning creatures, such as bloodthirsty owlbears and malicious displacer beasts. But more cunning and powerful than these monsters is the ranger, a skilled hunter and stalker. He knows the woods as if they were his home (as indeed they are), and he knows his prey in deadly detail."That's the PHB description of the ranger... so, by the core rules, the ranger should focus on the forest, thus mounted combat and such isn't considered...And as for your greatsword wielding fighter complaint... that fighter should be a FIGHTER not a ranger. If he wants to hunt, track, and know his prey, then he should be a ranger. If he wants to own all with his +12 assbeating greatsword, then he should stick to fighter.</blockquote>

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