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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 3361269" data-attributes="member: 892">The campaigns I am in are more gamist, I guess.Character creation goes like this:&quot;We need a healer.&quot;&quot;Ok, I'll take a Cleric with a Healing Domain, to be better at it.&quot;&nbsp; (Note carefully how the Healing Domain is seen as valuable, since it helps with the cleric's primary function)&quot;Hey look at this prestige class!&nbsp; It lets you be better at healing, at no serious cost.&quot;&quot;Ok, Cleric of...Pelor...NG...and working towards Radiant Servant of Pelor.&quot;This happens a lot in my gamist campaign, and I bet, since many campaigns are gamist, it happens a lot in other campaigns.&nbsp; And thus the roleplaying restrictions are meaningless in those campaigns, as are the skill point allocations (the party has the &quot;skill guy&quot;; he is called the Rogue).&nbsp; Thus the prestige class simply out clerics the cleric, in the cleric's primary gamist role as &quot;the healer/undead turner&quot;, in gamist campaigns.The one exception to this conversation I encountered in the gamist campaign was the guy who went for the Sentinel of Barai from BoED because he wanted to turn into a Bear.But in no case does the cleric remain a cleric to level 20.&nbsp; There is simply no mechanical reason to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 3361269, member: 892"] The campaigns I am in are more gamist, I guess. Character creation goes like this: "We need a healer." "Ok, I'll take a Cleric with a Healing Domain, to be better at it." (Note carefully how the Healing Domain is seen as valuable, since it helps with the cleric's primary function) "Hey look at this prestige class! It lets you be better at healing, at no serious cost." "Ok, Cleric of...Pelor...NG...and working towards Radiant Servant of Pelor." This happens a lot in my gamist campaign, and I bet, since many campaigns are gamist, it happens a lot in other campaigns. And thus the roleplaying restrictions are meaningless in those campaigns, as are the skill point allocations (the party has the "skill guy"; he is called the Rogue). Thus the prestige class simply out clerics the cleric, in the cleric's primary gamist role as "the healer/undead turner", in gamist campaigns. The one exception to this conversation I encountered in the gamist campaign was the guy who went for the Sentinel of Barai from BoED because he wanted to turn into a Bear. But in no case does the cleric remain a cleric to level 20. There is simply no mechanical reason to. [/QUOTE]

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