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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 6292507" data-attributes="member: 9213">I'm just going to interject here about the perceived glorification of the mob in certain movies. The Godfather especially the second one isnt a glorification. As a matter of fact it shows the wear and tear being involved in organised crime has on a family and the people that they love. By the end of those movies there is no happy ending for the primary protagonists. The thing is especially in terms of the Don Corleone and Michael they did what they did out of perceived necessity (Don Corleone for the future of his children and the protect the neighborhood from predators. And Michael to protect his father and avenge the attack on him). The same is true with Goodfellas and Scarface and to a lesser extent Casino. Goodfellas has the glorification but then has the ramifications of running with a crew of cutthroat murderers and thieves. Ironically, Tony Montana's (Scarface) fall starts when he actually takes a moral stand (the only one he takes in the whole movie I think...) and refuses to murder a mark with his wife and children in the car. So I'm not sure if it's accurate or fair to dismiss a genre based on the glorification of the lifestyle if the end result is showing that that lifestyle isn't everything it's cut out to be and is downright BAD for you. It's one of the only genres where being the protagonist doesn't save you from a terrible fate. Probably because they had it coming...</blockquote>

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