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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8126054" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>We were playing 4e in mid paragon levels (teens) and had just had a game where the rogue missed three saves in a row against a beholder's petrification ray leaving my ranger multiclass-paragon path wizard and the fighter to whittle down the solo monster over dozens of rounds of just rolling. Everybody but me was sick of 4e, the fighter felt he was too effective and that the combats became bogged down with him just doing the same sequence every time, monsters felt too reskinably similar mechanically, and the combats continuously took too long for most everybody but me's taste.</p><p></p><p>So we switched to pathfinder 1e to continue the campaign and my character became a ranger/wizard/eldritch knight. In the conversion I spent the resources to know and scribe a scroll of stone to flesh so that if a similar situation came up we could get the stoned person back into the game quicker.</p><p></p><p>In the first Pathfinder game we deal with a hostile cloud giant who has a shiny Little-Engine-That-Could apparatus of Kawilsh complete with happy face on the front and steam whistle like its a child's ride at an amusement park. We also know he has an ally copper dragon that works with him. I talk down the giant explaining how what he has heard of us is lies from agents of a demon lord we are opposing, how I am a demon hunter, and how we are not his enemies. </p><p></p><p>I feel good about actually convincing him enough to avoid a fight when it hits me, I stop and say, "Oh! That's not an Apparatus . . ." The DM gives a smile, says it spreads its mechanical cow catcher prongs and lets out a "Chu-Chu" whistle sigh as the happy face gives a nasty grin. "Roll initiative." he says. The retriever beats me on initiative, shoots a petrification ray at me from one of its shiny happy gem decorations, and I miss my save.</p><p></p><p>I sit out the whole fight petrified and the group plus the giant and his invisibly hidden copper dragon ally eventually defeat the now revealed advanced abyssal construct.</p><p></p><p>First round, first fight, one low die roll on my strong fortitude save and I was taken out before being able to take any actions, a scenario that specifically could not happen in 4e where petrifcation is a multistep progressive process.</p><p></p><p>At the end the party says "Didn't Voadam scribe a scroll of stone to flesh? Yeah, he did!" The rogue says he can use his maxxed out use magic device skill to activate it. "Who is carrying the scroll?" Then they turned to my statue, their eyes going to the petrified scroll pouch. "Huh."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8126054, member: 2209"] We were playing 4e in mid paragon levels (teens) and had just had a game where the rogue missed three saves in a row against a beholder's petrification ray leaving my ranger multiclass-paragon path wizard and the fighter to whittle down the solo monster over dozens of rounds of just rolling. Everybody but me was sick of 4e, the fighter felt he was too effective and that the combats became bogged down with him just doing the same sequence every time, monsters felt too reskinably similar mechanically, and the combats continuously took too long for most everybody but me's taste. So we switched to pathfinder 1e to continue the campaign and my character became a ranger/wizard/eldritch knight. In the conversion I spent the resources to know and scribe a scroll of stone to flesh so that if a similar situation came up we could get the stoned person back into the game quicker. In the first Pathfinder game we deal with a hostile cloud giant who has a shiny Little-Engine-That-Could apparatus of Kawilsh complete with happy face on the front and steam whistle like its a child's ride at an amusement park. We also know he has an ally copper dragon that works with him. I talk down the giant explaining how what he has heard of us is lies from agents of a demon lord we are opposing, how I am a demon hunter, and how we are not his enemies. I feel good about actually convincing him enough to avoid a fight when it hits me, I stop and say, "Oh! That's not an Apparatus . . ." The DM gives a smile, says it spreads its mechanical cow catcher prongs and lets out a "Chu-Chu" whistle sigh as the happy face gives a nasty grin. "Roll initiative." he says. The retriever beats me on initiative, shoots a petrification ray at me from one of its shiny happy gem decorations, and I miss my save. I sit out the whole fight petrified and the group plus the giant and his invisibly hidden copper dragon ally eventually defeat the now revealed advanced abyssal construct. First round, first fight, one low die roll on my strong fortitude save and I was taken out before being able to take any actions, a scenario that specifically could not happen in 4e where petrifcation is a multistep progressive process. At the end the party says "Didn't Voadam scribe a scroll of stone to flesh? Yeah, he did!" The rogue says he can use his maxxed out use magic device skill to activate it. "Who is carrying the scroll?" Then they turned to my statue, their eyes going to the petrified scroll pouch. "Huh." [/QUOTE]
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