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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Madred" data-source="post: 4639799" data-attributes="member: 82185">thats right. range in general is overpowered because DM won't take time to do small area maps/dungeons.most of the time (well in the games I played) it is usually a near open field.but.. i never played an 'official' campaign. i would like to test one of those paragon level adventure and see what really happens, since they often have small area layouts for encounters.until then.. long live the range attacks and 1 stat chars (like elf archer DEX rules all!!    or    tiefling feylock(at a lesser extend..he needs INT for ac.).. lets pump that main stat to 20 and fck the rest!)oh and by the way, most underpowered ='great weapon fighter' (unless you allow those crazy big races like minotaur) Barely does more dmg than the 1h weapon fighter, less AC, and cannot use shield tactics. I'd rather go rogue or twf ranger..and'paladins' (especially the avenging straladin.. it becomes even more pathetic at paragon level. they really should have powers that works with either wisdom or strength..the 'straladin' problem is that, any build that requires 3 stats maxed out will loose in the long run.+.. poor guy cannot even push his constitution for some soaking.hes definitely the big looser of 4th ed.close to him his the starlock. or any other class that really needs 3 stats.</blockquote>