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Message: <blockquote data-quote="robotsinmyhead" data-source="post: 4643860" data-attributes="member: 77253">This is a great thread.  For instance, in my experience with 4e (20ish games in 4-5 campaigns) the rogues have always been bypassed by other strikers and other classes in damage (though they have their place from an RP standpoint) and just couldn't keep up in terms of survivability/utility like some other strikers.  Really this comes down to the DM's style and the particular build of the classes and I feel like the game has a reasonably good balance overall (Battlerager looks a little much, but again - DM style can change this).Aside from the rogue, IME, the most underwhelming and disappointing class has -by far- been the Warlord and I guarantee someone will have a story that will be the polar opposite of my experiences with Warlords.</blockquote>