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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3618862" data-attributes="member: 2525">I object to you painting with a broad brush (and said so).  I object to you dismissing entire books, and whole groups of things, when what you really mean is a few things are problematic.  It's hyperbole.  There is no need for it.  You may in fact be persuading people to not even consider something in your overexuberance to name things you think are broken. Apostle of Peace, Beloved of Valarian, Celestial Mystic, Emissary of Barachiel, Exalted Arcanist, Initiate of Pistis Sophia, Lion of Talisid, Prophet of Erathaol, Risen Martyr, Sentinel of Bharrai, Skylord, Slayer of Domiel, Stalker of Kharash, Swamay, Sword of Righteousness, Troubadour of Stars, Vassak if Bahamut, Wonderworker....MOST of those stink.  Most have bad, and even disabling entry requirements.  Do not go around telling people that you have to dismiss the ENTIRE group of prestige classes from that book to find anything not broken (which IS what you said).  You're wrong.  The prestige class list is not all broken.  In fact, the overwhelming majority of it is not broken, and some are even underpowered.  Have you EVER heard of someone taking a Skylord or Prophet of Erathaol or Emissary of Barachiel or Celestial MysticBeloved of Valarian? I have not.Is good.Actually most of those are average.I'm just asking you to stop exaggerating to make your points.  It *IS* a real discussion when someone challenges your views.  You don't provide "exhaustive evidence".  You often make wild claims, and when someone challenges you, you usually do what you just did...name a couple of things to back up your point (when you claims calls for a dozen things) and then claim people are picking on you.  Nobody is picking on you.  But when you say all the prestiges classes in a book are broken, you need to provide evidence that all the prestige classes in the book are broken.  If it's instead only a minority, you need to say "sorry I misspoke, a minority of the prestige classes are broken, but they are so good that I would discourage people from that book if they have a choice between it and one of the more balanced books" or something like that.</blockquote>

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