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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7953845" data-attributes="member: 6704184">Not ironic at all, actually.Do you even have a source for the 35 million figure, that isn’t quite old? Because that was true in 2017, and I figure we know that the market has grown dramatically since then.In fact, I know for a fact it’s at least 45m, but I can’t recall if that was ‘18 or ‘19. Nor do I know if that counts dndbeyond, roll20, etc. Also, I suspect from looking at their methodology that some of their data is leaving out types of products that are part of the TTRPG market, like dice bags and various other game aids on  and other stuff is just hard to categorize any way but as it’s own thing, like cosplay. No one is gonna put “D&D related cosplay” in “TTRPGs” rather than in its own thing. But hey, we could also look at individual kickstarters, and the idea of gamers being cheap becomes silly. A cheap group of hobbyists spent over 3 million on a single minis campaign? Really?You know the fans of Critical Role are primarily also part of the rpg market, right? That campaign made over 7 million.Colville’s KS campaign for a book about a niche campaign type made over 2 million.As for DDB, I’m fairly certain that I conflated “users who have purchased as least the phb” with “subscribers”. In general, I don’t have much respect for folks who hound on stuff like that, though. Makes it seem like you’re trying to “win” something.Take a look during a normal year at how many people pay to be in a theater for a live game of one of the popular streaming shows. Or how many shows are able to make a living just from streaming. If TTRPG players were cheap, you’d expect that number to be 0.So, yeah, all your nit picks aside, the idea that the hobby is full of cheap people is completely asinine.</blockquote>

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