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<blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 4654282" data-attributes="member: 834"><p>That <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-4th-edition-rules/249888-d-d-4th-edition-constitution-what-waste-time.html" target="_blank">thread</a> was started by a poster who was of the opinion that constitution was worthless and wondered if anyone bothered with it.</p><p></p><p>It got me to wonder about what attribute is the most valued by players on average. </p><p></p><p>The most convenient sample I could find was the PCs <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/240999-official-approved-character-list.html" target="_blank">approved for Living 4e EN world.</a></p><p></p><p>Some disclaimer about the sample : </p><p></p><p>It includes 46 PCs. </p><p>These are all PHB pcs and PHB + MM races. </p><p>These PCs were all built with 25 points instead of the standard 22.</p><p></p><p>That being said, here are the average scores:</p><p></p><p>Strenght : 14.09</p><p>Constitution : 14.22</p><p>Dexterity : 12.96</p><p>Intelligence : 12.76</p><p>Wisdom : 12.98</p><p>Charisma : 12.28</p><p></p><p>As I expected, consitution won out.</p><p></p><p>The often decried Intelligence did not finish last, that spot belongs to Charisma. </p><p></p><p>So it went</p><p></p><p>Constitution</p><p>Strenght</p><p>Wisdom</p><p>Dexterity</p><p>Intelligence</p><p>Charisma</p><p></p><p>The most often dumped stat were, in order,</p><p></p><p>Charisma (9 times)</p><p>Intelligence (7 times)</p><p>Strenght (6 times)</p><p>Wisdom (5 times)</p><p>Dexterity (2 time)</p><p>Constitution (0 times)</p><p></p><p>With 25 points, 17 players opted not to dump anything. At 22 points, that would have been unlikely.</p><p></p><p>Observations; the value of stats goes hand in hand with the popularity of classes. Fighter are one of the most popular class amongst the 46 sampled PCs. But then again, you can only sample the classes that are being played! </p><p></p><p>And one would expect that someone who likes their heroes dextrous or smart would be drawn to classes that value these stats or at least won't dump them. i.e. My fighter dumps cha over int even though he is trained in intimidate simply because I prefer him not to be 8 int.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mal Malenkirk, post: 4654282, member: 834"] That [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-4th-edition-rules/249888-d-d-4th-edition-constitution-what-waste-time.html"]thread[/URL] was started by a poster who was of the opinion that constitution was worthless and wondered if anyone bothered with it. It got me to wonder about what attribute is the most valued by players on average. The most convenient sample I could find was the PCs [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/240999-official-approved-character-list.html"]approved for Living 4e EN world.[/URL] Some disclaimer about the sample : It includes 46 PCs. These are all PHB pcs and PHB + MM races. These PCs were all built with 25 points instead of the standard 22. That being said, here are the average scores: Strenght : 14.09 Constitution : 14.22 Dexterity : 12.96 Intelligence : 12.76 Wisdom : 12.98 Charisma : 12.28 As I expected, consitution won out. The often decried Intelligence did not finish last, that spot belongs to Charisma. So it went Constitution Strenght Wisdom Dexterity Intelligence Charisma The most often dumped stat were, in order, Charisma (9 times) Intelligence (7 times) Strenght (6 times) Wisdom (5 times) Dexterity (2 time) Constitution (0 times) With 25 points, 17 players opted not to dump anything. At 22 points, that would have been unlikely. Observations; the value of stats goes hand in hand with the popularity of classes. Fighter are one of the most popular class amongst the 46 sampled PCs. But then again, you can only sample the classes that are being played! And one would expect that someone who likes their heroes dextrous or smart would be drawn to classes that value these stats or at least won't dump them. i.e. My fighter dumps cha over int even though he is trained in intimidate simply because I prefer him not to be 8 int. [/QUOTE]
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