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Message: <blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1715810" data-attributes="member: 9002">Gah, where to beginGAh.  So wrong.  Where to begin.Do you not see that the way you describe a "rogue's" modus operandi is the opposite of versatile?Meaning, the rogue MUST sneak, avoid all combat, and hope to accomplish a mission with stealth.However,a) not all missions can be accomplished via stealth.b) sometimes rogues blow a roll and end up in involuntary combat.  Then what?The rogue, in other words:* can't do effective melee* can't do effective ranged attacks* can't survive random damage (low HP's)* have bad magical/will saves* have only average AC* have no native spellcasting abilityA druid, to take our example:* can do effective melee* can have effective ranged attacks (spells)* can survive random damage (good HP's)* has excellent saves* has similarly average AC* is a full casterPlus, using wildshape and some spell buffs, can infiltrate/sneak/scout nearly as well as a rogue.So, none of the weaknesses of the rogue, plus using smart wildshaping, will be able to sneak around when desired.  OR melee effectively.  OR etc.In other words, simply play a druid like you are playing the rogue.  Focus on not getting into combat; into sneaking around; infiltration, etc.  Use the druid  in way that's not "draw sword and attack."  It's legal with a druid.  Try it.  Get into the enemy camp wildshaped as a war pony.  Or as a rat, creep in at night.  Whatever. Then, only if you MUST, and are FORCED, use the druid's spellcasting/melee prowess.  Unlike the rogue, the druid won't have to run away immediately.  At least, not right after the first round.See?  Versitile.  Not a one-trick war pony.To sum:  who the heck told you to play a druid in a way different you would play a rogue?  (it's your choice, dude, do what you want.  It's not the class's weakness).</blockquote>

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