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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5661925" data-attributes="member: 463">Monster Vault is the best of the monster books and has lots of familiar critters, though not all - I looked in vain for eg Hell Hounds and Ettercaps, which are back in Monster Manual.I like Monster Manual II, its monsters are better designed than in MM (which often feel like monster pinatas - too many hp, too little threat).&nbsp; MM2 has lots of humans, which suits my game.&nbsp; MM2 also has relatively little crossover with MV.&nbsp; MM3 has cool monsters, but few are familiar, some are new variants on MM.MV: Nentir Vale has lots of heroic tier humanoids.&nbsp; Lots of fluff, it's designed more for scenario building than for pulling out stats ad hoc.&nbsp; Eg it has lots of Brigand stats, but when I wanted a human brigand leader on Saturday I couldn't find any, just Shadar-Kai, Werewolves &amp; such exotics.&nbsp; I ended up using the MV Human Dualist, which worked well IMO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 5661925, member: 463"] Monster Vault is the best of the monster books and has lots of familiar critters, though not all - I looked in vain for eg Hell Hounds and Ettercaps, which are back in Monster Manual. I like Monster Manual II, its monsters are better designed than in MM (which often feel like monster pinatas - too many hp, too little threat). MM2 has lots of humans, which suits my game. MM2 also has relatively little crossover with MV. MM3 has cool monsters, but few are familiar, some are new variants on MM. MV: Nentir Vale has lots of heroic tier humanoids. Lots of fluff, it's designed more for scenario building than for pulling out stats ad hoc. Eg it has lots of Brigand stats, but when I wanted a human brigand leader on Saturday I couldn't find any, just Shadar-Kai, Werewolves & such exotics. I ended up using the MV Human Dualist, which worked well IMO. [/QUOTE]

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