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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5554838" data-attributes="member: 87792">Title: "Help me plan an assassination". Players are being targetted... I've heard of killer DMs, but this is getting ridiculous.  That's not going to cut it against an 8th level party unless it gets the coup de grace. I'd use a 12th level bard, a scroll to allow him to carry a dozen low level (3 or 4) minions through with him and a scry and fry. With the mooks hitting hard due to bardic music + message - but going down easily. And go for the wizard; two mooks grab him and unveil a Silence around him. (And around the cleric and druid). Edit: Unveilling a silence: Silence works on an emination from whatever it is cast on.  Therefore if you cast it on an a ring and then wrap the hand in cloth, it will do nothing - until you drop the cloth when it will suddenly appear.  Scry and fry, and team up. Also one bard and the rest warriors should be entertaining... Catch the PCs unarmoured and half asleep and even a dozen generic orcs backed by Bardic Music* are going to make the whole thing a bitch to survive for the non-targets. +4 to hit and damage from their generic falchions, +3 from the music (+2 default with a further +1 from a buff to Inspire Courage), and +1 from a wand of Lesser Magic Weapon.  The orcs lose the music after five rounds.  +8 to hit and an average of 13 damage per hit vs mostly unarmoured PCs is going to be ... unpleasant.  Especially from ordinary CR 1/2 monsters. And if the bard isn't part of the incoming teleport, this is going to be a scary fight - and the PCs know that it can be done again the next night and the next...</blockquote>

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