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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8729064" data-attributes="member: 6796468">Pretty much any added system creates bloat, yeah. The intention was only to try and contain it. Keep it from running rampant.As far as a power boost... yeah. A bit! If you follow this class from start to finish you'll be doing 1d10 main hand and 1d8 off hand and have the ability to do a single big hit every once in a while with Lancer's Leap, though it does require some setup to achieve. And adding &quot;Parrying&quot; to a bunch of weapon options gives you a good solid reaction choice every round as a defensive boost...But there's no stunning fists to stack up on top, very little in the way of defensive boosts, and you get less maneuvers and other options than you would if you went straight fighter. Not to mention the lack of Bonus Exertion 'til level 8 when both Fighter and Adept get bonus exertion at 4 and the Adept gets 3 by level 8.So you gain and you lose, here and there, to specialize. But you also get some Renown and different social options during leveling which, to me, is pretty important.Mmm... I think the best reasonable use for this Motif Class design might be in setting-specific concepts rather than trying to shoehorn all of them into existing classes? Sort of how Prestige Classes do, time to time, like the Purple Dragon Knight or the Arcane Archer being elf-only for Greyhawk's themes.Much to think upon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8729064, member: 6796468"] Pretty much any added system creates bloat, yeah. The intention was only to try and contain it. Keep it from running rampant. As far as a power boost... yeah. A bit! If you follow this class from start to finish you'll be doing 1d10 main hand and 1d8 off hand and have the ability to do a single big hit every once in a while with Lancer's Leap, though it does require some setup to achieve. And adding "Parrying" to a bunch of weapon options gives you a good solid reaction choice every round as a defensive boost... But there's no stunning fists to stack up on top, very little in the way of defensive boosts, and you get less maneuvers and other options than you would if you went straight fighter. Not to mention the lack of Bonus Exertion 'til level 8 when both Fighter and Adept get bonus exertion at 4 and the Adept gets 3 by level 8. So you gain and you lose, here and there, to specialize. But you also get some Renown and different social options during leveling which, to me, is pretty important. Mmm... I think the best reasonable use for this Motif Class design might be in setting-specific concepts rather than trying to shoehorn all of them into existing classes? Sort of how Prestige Classes do, time to time, like the Purple Dragon Knight or the Arcane Archer being elf-only for Greyhawk's themes. Much to think upon. [/QUOTE]

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