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MoTW: Do Frenzy and Rage Stack?
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<blockquote data-quote="Brisk-sg" data-source="post: 1155474" data-attributes="member: 5037"><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Hello All,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">One of my player's character died a horrible, not easy to resurrect death last session; his character was dropped in single combat by a large Quaggoth, the Thonot of the tribe, while the forty of the tribes warriors looked on. The character was then hurled into the Blade Barrier the priest erected. The character's innards were then mixed with that of the fourteen or so Quaggoth who tried to charge through the Barrier.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Well, that is beside the point. He created a new character instead of attempting to have him resurrected. The new character is where I am having some rules difficulties. The character is as follows:</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Chaotic-Good Shield Dwarf; Fighter 1 / Barbarian 6 / Frenzied Berserker 1</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Str 18, Dex 14, Con 16, Int 13, Wis 10, Chr 10</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Rage 2/day, Frenzy 1/day</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I have two questions concerning Frenzy:</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">1) This question is concerning using both Rage & Frenzy. He is using both Rage & Frenzy at the same time. He says they stack because neither lists a type and neither says you cannot do it (nor does it say anywhere that you can both Rage & Frenzy at the same time).</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">When using both Rage & Frenzy he gets a total of +10 to Strength, +4 to Con, +2 to Will Saves (which helps him end the Frenzy voluntarily by the way), but takes a total of -6 to AC and 2 points subdual per round.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Can Rage & Frenzy be used at the same time, and do they stack?</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">2) The second question is concerning 3.5 rules and the extra attack provided by Frenzy. Masters of the Wild states "While frenzied, she gains a +6 bonus to Strength and a single extra attack each round at her highest attack bonus. (This latter effect is not cumulative with haste.)". Does this mean that the character gets an extra attack regardless of what other actions he takes, or should I rule that it is like the 3.5 version of haste where the extra attack only occurs during a full attack action. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">The reason this is a concern, is the player will likely use this to do things such as making a double-move and then attacking, ect. In this session he used it with a charge action.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Thank for any help you can provide.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">- Josh</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brisk-sg, post: 1155474, member: 5037"] [size=3][font=Arial]Hello All,[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]One of my player's character died a horrible, not easy to resurrect death last session; his character was dropped in single combat by a large Quaggoth, the Thonot of the tribe, while the forty of the tribes warriors looked on. The character was then hurled into the Blade Barrier the priest erected. The character's innards were then mixed with that of the fourteen or so Quaggoth who tried to charge through the Barrier.[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]Well, that is beside the point. He created a new character instead of attempting to have him resurrected. The new character is where I am having some rules difficulties. The character is as follows:[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]Chaotic-Good Shield Dwarf; Fighter 1 / Barbarian 6 / Frenzied Berserker 1[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]Str 18, Dex 14, Con 16, Int 13, Wis 10, Chr 10[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]Rage 2/day, Frenzy 1/day[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]I have two questions concerning Frenzy:[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]1) This question is concerning using both Rage & Frenzy. He is using both Rage & Frenzy at the same time. He says they stack because neither lists a type and neither says you cannot do it (nor does it say anywhere that you can both Rage & Frenzy at the same time).[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]When using both Rage & Frenzy he gets a total of +10 to Strength, +4 to Con, +2 to Will Saves (which helps him end the Frenzy voluntarily by the way), but takes a total of -6 to AC and 2 points subdual per round.[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]Can Rage & Frenzy be used at the same time, and do they stack?[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]2) The second question is concerning 3.5 rules and the extra attack provided by Frenzy. Masters of the Wild states "While frenzied, she gains a +6 bonus to Strength and a single extra attack each round at her highest attack bonus. (This latter effect is not cumulative with haste.)". Does this mean that the character gets an extra attack regardless of what other actions he takes, or should I rule that it is like the 3.5 version of haste where the extra attack only occurs during a full attack action. [/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]The reason this is a concern, is the player will likely use this to do things such as making a double-move and then attacking, ect. In this session he used it with a charge action.[/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]Thank for any help you can provide.[/font][/size] [font=Arial][size=3]- Josh[/size][/font] [/QUOTE]
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