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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 60629" data-attributes="member: 710">Well, I calculated the bonus this way:You roll 2 D20. The maximum difference between the two rolls is 19 (rolling a 1 and rolling a 20), the minimum difference is 0 (rolling the same number twice).Since my calculation are only approximated, I assumed that the average difference is (0+19)/2 = 19/2 = 9.5 (so you are right that it is not 10 <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ).I used this difference as the average "bonus" if you could only use one of both results. I used the same method to get the average damage (using the best and the worst possible result, and get the average. So if making this calculation for attack is wrong, then is the average damage, and I believe my method is right.)Well this +10 bonus is reduced by the penalties for using two weapons, reducing it to +8 (I stated this).This means - obviously - that I did speciafically not take into account that you could even hit twice  using two weapon fighting, and as stated I did also ignore the fact that twohanded fighting gives more damage bonus to your attack (I believe this might make Two Handed Fighting with strength cores up to 17 equal to two weapon fighting and above slightly better.)I completely ignored the ACs of your opponent, because this makes things to difficult to calculate. There are situations in which you probably really need a higher base attack bonus, and there are also many situations in which you can hit twice with your bonus attacks. (The AC I used in my calculations is their fighters own - Since I want them to not to fight against each other, but only compare the combat abilities, and I think their AC is not unimportantfor this. To Hit and To Be Hit, so to say <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )Okay, I am willing to agree that considering the need for Improved Two Weapon Fighting to keep this calculations correct when multiple attacks from base attack spring in and the problem with greater Strength Bonus Damage, Two Weapon Fighting can become slightly weaker than Two Handed Fighting, but actually the difference is still not great enough. Probably even for Min-Maxers... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Probably, this can even be compensated (for a price) by adding bonus damage (Sneak Attacks, or a Sure Striking Holy / Sure Striking Flaming & Corrosive Two Bladed Sword +1/+1. Two +4s are cheaper than 1 +8..)</blockquote>

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