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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6297352" data-attributes="member: 2067">I'm futzing about with a potential mounted character in 4e, but coming to a weird intersection of the rules, and I'm looking mostly for what RAW would say (but also reasonable interpretations of intent):<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> If the rider takes a move action, and the mount takes a standard action, does the mount move with the rider? At the rider's speed? Or is the only move action the rider can take become "dismount"?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> If the rider uses an action that grants the user movement (such as an attack that allows a shift), can the mount take that movement? Or does making such an action simply mean the rider cannot benefit from that part of the action? </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Does the mount count as an ally? So that when the mount is adjacent to an enemy, both the rider and one of the rider's allies is adjacent? Would this mean that the mount can benefit from Leader-style powers that grant movement or attacks to allies? If so, and the mount moves, does the rider move with it?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Does the player get to decide what actions the mount takes? That is, if I want my warhorse to trample, can I as the rider/player make my mount do that? Or because the mount is an NPC, does the DM make that decision? Is the Mounted Combat feat useful at all in a game where the DM says mounted creatures don't want to attack? </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Do Aura effects change to emanate from the mount while mounted (since they "share the same space"), or is it similar to a blast/burst in that the user must "choose" an origin square (effectively making the aura happen only on one side of the mount, plus on the mount itself)? </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Is acquiring new/upgraded mounts mostly an issue of things that happen in the campaign? So my 30th level fighter might be buying a new Warhorse after every encounter due to the things in those fights being able to eat warhorses for a light afternoon snack? No guarantee of having an "appropriate" mount for your level?</li> </ul>I cain't for the life of me parse out what even the intent here is. If my character basically doesn't benefit from any powers that grant movement while mounted, this seems to get rid of a HUGE swath of powers from a LOT of classes, even archetypally mounted classes (like fighters). Having paper-thin mounts in comparison to PC's seems totally..."un-4e" to me. Not in the spirit of "you can always do the things you can do." / avoiding accidental suck. Can I make my mount kick or trample, or is that something my mount only gets to do when I'm not riding it? If I take Warlord powers that grant attacks and movements, and I move when the mount moves, could I grant the action to my mount (and thus myself)? Does my mount benefit from special movement modes, or is it essentially a dead weight I need to drag along if I want to play that kind of character?I know the stock response to this is, "Don't play a mounted character in 4e, doofus!", but I'm trying to get a sense for what such a character could do/be capable of in 4e, it's just hard to tell if the mount is ever really an asset or mostly just a handicap.</blockquote>

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