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<blockquote data-quote="bobcat_grad" data-source="post: 5055858" data-attributes="member: 69786"><p>I have more questions to add to the mounted combat questions:</p><p></p><p>Prior to my questions about situations with mounted combat, let's remember a few things about it.</p><p></p><p>1) For the sake of attacks, you and your mount are considered in to take up the mount's space. Meaning while on your horse, you are 'large' and taking up 4 squares.</p><p></p><p>2) Single target melee and ranged attacks can target you OR your mount. Meaning, the monsters will have to declare if they're going after you or the mount if you are on it.</p><p></p><p>3) Burst and area attacks target you AND the mount.</p><p></p><p>4) You and you mount share a set of actions. Typically this mean if you are on your mount, you will take a standard action, your mount will move, and either can do a minor (most likely you). If you aren't on your mount, this still applies. Your mount could take all three actions while you stand there, or the other way around, or you could split your actions between you and your horse.</p><p></p><p>But there are few situations I can foresee that may cause some rules questions, and I don't see anything that addresses them anywhere. I'd like to get community so I know how to handle these situations at the table (I'm running a campaign where all of the characters just got horses for a cross-wilderness journey and I could expect them to come across encounters while on their horses where they choose not to dismount prior to combat or aren't given the chance).</p><p></p><p>A) Say a monster has a power to dominate and does so to a mount that you are on. I would assume that means on your turn, I as DM could make your mount run away. But you as the character are NOT dominated, so you would get to take your actions. The problem is you share you set of standard, minor, move with the mount. Sooo... what happens? Do I as DM get to go first and make your mount run away with you on it? Or do you get to use your standard to get off first (mounting/dismounting is a standard), then you get your minor, and then I get to make your mount run away?</p><p></p><p>B) Similar situation with this question. If a close burst attack hits you and not your mount that includes a dazed effect, what happens? Since you are dazed, does that mean you and your mount only get one action? Or you only get one action, but your mount gets to use the other two?</p><p></p><p>C) Immobilization - similar question again (although this one is a little easier). If one of you is immobilized, but the other is not - what happens? If you are on the horse and immobilized - does that mean you can't dismount? If your horse is immobilized, does that mean you could use a standard to dismount, move to get away from the horse and a minor? </p><p></p><p>D) Mount Healing - most mounts don't have healing surges. Does that mean there's no way to heal them? Between fights, do they get any ability to heal with short rests?</p><p></p><p>I'd really like to get community feedback on this soon as I expect some situations to come up in our group's sessions soon. Otherwise, I'll just have to handle it on a situational basis and come up with our own set of rules as we go that we will stick to until we find an official ruling.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bobcat_grad, post: 5055858, member: 69786"] I have more questions to add to the mounted combat questions: Prior to my questions about situations with mounted combat, let's remember a few things about it. 1) For the sake of attacks, you and your mount are considered in to take up the mount's space. Meaning while on your horse, you are 'large' and taking up 4 squares. 2) Single target melee and ranged attacks can target you OR your mount. Meaning, the monsters will have to declare if they're going after you or the mount if you are on it. 3) Burst and area attacks target you AND the mount. 4) You and you mount share a set of actions. Typically this mean if you are on your mount, you will take a standard action, your mount will move, and either can do a minor (most likely you). If you aren't on your mount, this still applies. Your mount could take all three actions while you stand there, or the other way around, or you could split your actions between you and your horse. But there are few situations I can foresee that may cause some rules questions, and I don't see anything that addresses them anywhere. I'd like to get community so I know how to handle these situations at the table (I'm running a campaign where all of the characters just got horses for a cross-wilderness journey and I could expect them to come across encounters while on their horses where they choose not to dismount prior to combat or aren't given the chance). A) Say a monster has a power to dominate and does so to a mount that you are on. I would assume that means on your turn, I as DM could make your mount run away. But you as the character are NOT dominated, so you would get to take your actions. The problem is you share you set of standard, minor, move with the mount. Sooo... what happens? Do I as DM get to go first and make your mount run away with you on it? Or do you get to use your standard to get off first (mounting/dismounting is a standard), then you get your minor, and then I get to make your mount run away? B) Similar situation with this question. If a close burst attack hits you and not your mount that includes a dazed effect, what happens? Since you are dazed, does that mean you and your mount only get one action? Or you only get one action, but your mount gets to use the other two? C) Immobilization - similar question again (although this one is a little easier). If one of you is immobilized, but the other is not - what happens? If you are on the horse and immobilized - does that mean you can't dismount? If your horse is immobilized, does that mean you could use a standard to dismount, move to get away from the horse and a minor? D) Mount Healing - most mounts don't have healing surges. Does that mean there's no way to heal them? Between fights, do they get any ability to heal with short rests? I'd really like to get community feedback on this soon as I expect some situations to come up in our group's sessions soon. Otherwise, I'll just have to handle it on a situational basis and come up with our own set of rules as we go that we will stick to until we find an official ruling. [FONT=tahoma] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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