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<blockquote data-quote="JiggleFloyd" data-source="post: 5056388" data-attributes="member: 85403">Thanks for your input AbdulAlhazred. I think this discussion makes it clear that the rules are not 100% defined for questions 2 and 3, and that there is some room for interpretation. Ultimately, issues that are even slightly ambiguous are decided by the DM.Klaus and I seem to have the same reasoning and proofs for our interpretations; mainly, that if you have the choice to move with your mount for involuntary (forced) movement it only makes sense that you can do so for voluntary movement under your own power. A lot of powers that allow a PC to shift, slide, teleport, etc. are usually considered free actions or immediate reactions, both of which are shared by you and your mount. Your reasoning makes sense in that if you mount you give up your right to move actions; you benefit from the mounts movement abilities in some ways and are hindered in other ways. But given the game mechanics, using that same reasoning would lead to a different conclusion for the ruling on forced movement. If someone forces a PC to move, it doesn't necessarily make sense that the mount would move with the PC all the time, however this is what the rules state.This is probably in order to simplify things for the DM and PCs and make mounted combat more appealing. I for one would never choose to have a mount if I could be forced to dismount that easily, one forced slide and I'm down, especially since it takes a standard action to mount again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JiggleFloyd, post: 5056388, member: 85403"] Thanks for your input AbdulAlhazred. I think this discussion makes it clear that the rules are not 100% defined for questions 2 and 3, and that there is some room for interpretation. Ultimately, issues that are even slightly ambiguous are decided by the DM. Klaus and I seem to have the same reasoning and proofs for our interpretations; mainly, that if you have the choice to move with your mount for involuntary (forced) movement it only makes sense that you can do so for voluntary movement under your own power. A lot of powers that allow a PC to shift, slide, teleport, etc. are usually considered free actions or immediate reactions, both of which are shared by you and your mount. Your reasoning makes sense in that if you mount you give up your right to move actions; you benefit from the mounts movement abilities in some ways and are hindered in other ways. But given the game mechanics, using that same reasoning would lead to a different conclusion for the ruling on forced movement. If someone forces a PC to move, it doesn't necessarily make sense that the mount would move with the PC all the time, however this is what the rules state.This is probably in order to simplify things for the DM and PCs and make mounted combat more appealing. I for one would never choose to have a mount if I could be forced to dismount that easily, one forced slide and I'm down, especially since it takes a standard action to mount again. [/QUOTE]

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