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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6281841" data-attributes="member: 2067">That's not really the case though. The person at the front still stops the bad guys from getting to the squishies. They can't get around him, so they have to try and go through him. That part seems fine. The point that seems to be a problem is that going through him is something they can all do at once without allowing a response. That's an initiative problem. The orphans can take their actions to run away, right? And if you give these guys axes they can chuck while standing stock-still, you've got the same problem. Again, 4e solos serve a useful comparison: it is not hard to get overwhelmed when all of your enemies go and you don't get a response. I dunno, when I imagine holding a choke point against a raging tide of enemies, or standing in front of a a firing squad, you are subject to a bunch of attacks. Tough characters (like most fighters) should be able to whether that storm, but the storm still should happen, right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6281841, member: 2067"] That's not really the case though. The person at the front still stops the bad guys from getting to the squishies. They can't get around him, so they have to try and go through him. That part seems fine. The point that seems to be a problem is that going through him is something they can all do at once without allowing a response. That's an initiative problem. The orphans can take their actions to run away, right? And if you give these guys axes they can chuck while standing stock-still, you've got the same problem. Again, 4e solos serve a useful comparison: it is not hard to get overwhelmed when all of your enemies go and you don't get a response. I dunno, when I imagine holding a choke point against a raging tide of enemies, or standing in front of a a firing squad, you [I]are[/I] subject to a bunch of attacks. Tough characters (like most fighters) should be able to whether that storm, but the storm still should happen, right? [/QUOTE]

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