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<blockquote data-quote="zyzzyr" data-source="post: 494713" data-attributes="member: 1867">The problem seems to be a greater one - what exactly is a standard action versus a move-equivalent action, and what does it all mean in reality?&nbsp; In what order do these occur?&nbsp; Do they occur sequentially or do they occur simultaneously?Sequential: move-eq: 3 seconds, standard: 3 seconds.Simultaneous: round takes 6 seconds.Included in this are: I can move 30 and attack, or stand still and just attack once?&nbsp; (Similarly: I can move 30' and cast, but if I don't move, I only cast once? )If I move then attack, the square I was just in can be considered threatened, and an adjacent foe can get an AoO.&nbsp; If I do a double move, it's not threatened? If it were simultaneous, I could not move 30 feet THEN attack.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Pretty simple - it takes time to move the 30 feet.&nbsp; Unless I can make it in 1 second, the attack has less time.&nbsp; However, if it is sequential, then it's odd to separate move-equiv vs. standard.&nbsp; There is no reason you can't cast two spells in one round, if 1 standard is only 3 seconds.&nbsp; There would be no difference between a standard and move-equiv.Personally, in my game, I rule that it is sequential-sequential and that it is more of a &quot;game&quot; than representative of reality.&nbsp; I still use standard vs. move-equiv, and just ask my players to ignore the relatively obvious - it does not perfectly represent reality.The truth is, it has features of both simultaneous and sequential.So, in my game, I would rule that half-speed with a double move (base speed 30') is 30'.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zyzzyr, post: 494713, member: 1867"] The problem seems to be a greater one - what exactly is a standard action versus a move-equivalent action, and what does it all mean in reality? In what order do these occur? Do they occur sequentially or do they occur simultaneously? Sequential: move-eq: 3 seconds, standard: 3 seconds. Simultaneous: round takes 6 seconds. Included in this are: I can move 30 and attack, or stand still and just attack once? (Similarly: I can move 30' and cast, but if I don't move, I only cast once? ) If I move then attack, the square I was just in can be considered threatened, and an adjacent foe can get an AoO. If I do a double move, it's not threatened? If it were simultaneous, I could not move 30 feet THEN attack. Why? Pretty simple - it takes time to move the 30 feet. Unless I can make it in 1 second, the attack has less time. However, if it is sequential, then it's odd to separate move-equiv vs. standard. There is no reason you can't cast two spells in one round, if 1 standard is only 3 seconds. There would be no difference between a standard and move-equiv. Personally, in my game, I rule that it is sequential-sequential and that it is more of a "game" than representative of reality. I still use standard vs. move-equiv, and just ask my players to ignore the relatively obvious - it does not perfectly represent reality. The truth is, it has features of both simultaneous and sequential. So, in my game, I would rule that half-speed with a double move (base speed 30') is 30'. [/QUOTE]

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