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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 495511" data-attributes="member: 2829">I saw the referrence in the PH stating that when you move your movement rate and take another action, you are effectively hustling for a short period of time. This still doesn't help me make sense of your opinion though, but I'm trying. Here, let me try and give you my perspective. Maybe you'll be able to find the flaw in it, if there is one (which is certainly possible).Keeping that referrence in the PH in mind, if you wanted to just walk and make an attack, you would move a max of 15 ft. (if your normal rate is 30) and you would make an attack. If you wanted to move non-tactically, say when you're just walking down the road, you take a double move. If this is not the case, the movement rate per day charts need to be cut in half, because the only way to walk 32 miles in a day is to make a double move every single round because you only move 15 feet with a single move. So, only one of two possibilities are correct.1) Using Hide means you can only walk.2) Using Hide limits you to half your movement rate per round.You'll probably notice that both 1 and 2 lead to the exact same result. If using Hide means that you can only move half your normal movement rate to avoid the -5 penalty, then just make a double move. If you disallow this, then your players can only travel 18 miles per day, because apparently, its now impossible to perform a double move at half speed, and the Hide skill makes no restriction on your total movement per round. It only restricts your movement rate, which is completely different.My point is this (assume normal movement rate of 30): A hustle is 60 feet per round with a double-move. A standard move is 30 feet per round with a short hustle when you also take another action the same round. A standard day of walking, 32 miles per day, is accomplished by performing either a double move every round at walking speed (15 feet per move), or for some funky and completely unexplainable reason, you simply take one short hustle every round (insert mental picture of skipping down the road here). If you peform a double move at a rate of 15 feet per move, you're still only walking, which means you're still only moving half your normal movement rate.</blockquote>

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