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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 498725" data-attributes="member: 1118">No he's not.  You're comparing apples and oranges again.  We're saying he moves at half speed.  We aren't saying that one person is moving 30ft per round (without using Move actions) and the other is going to use Move actions).If the person isn't moving silently, he's going to take two move actions (and end up moving 60ft) as opposed to only moving 30ft.Yes, I know the PHB says you walk 30ft per round.  But since the description of move silently says you move at half SPEED, then I see that as walking silently 15ft per round OR - if we're using combat actions - 15 per action.We aren't saying to compare apples to oranges.  It doesn't make sense to me that in combat a thief that wants to move 5ft and pick someone's pocket can't because he must take a fullround action to do so (using your interpretation) or we end up with fractions of squares moved.  As long as we stick with half *speed* then it's consistent. BTW -  I do realize that there is an inconsistency with only saying you can move 15ft per round out of combat and 30ft per round in combat, but I can live with it and can rationalize it away by saying the penalty for moving faster is offset by the penalty for hearing in combat.IceBear</blockquote>