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<blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 501297" data-attributes="member: 96">But 'thirty feet' is not a speed.&nbsp; &quot;thirty feet per time period X&quot; is a speed.&nbsp; What is time period X?&nbsp; That's what I'm getting at.&nbsp; I think TPX is 'one round'.&nbsp; Other folks think it's 'one move action'.Right.&nbsp; And since overland movement is generally considered to be walking, we see from that that you go 15' in a full round (2 move actions) of moving silently.It sure does!&nbsp; That's what that table (page 143) in the PHB is that we keep pointing out to you. One round, walk, 30 ft.&nbsp; First line of the table (barring headers and such).&nbsp; You can tell that the 30 feet is a double move, because the next line (hustle) says you can move 60 ft per round at a hustle.&nbsp; It is no coincidence that this is the typical distance you travel during a double move in combat...So you're not 'losing actions' when you move overland. Remember, if you're moving 30' in a round and doing something else then you are hustling - and you can't keep up a hustle all day.&nbsp; (That's on the same page, BTW, top of the second column.)&nbsp; Your example person who is &quot;losing actions&quot; is jogging for 3 seconds, stopping for 3, jogging for 3 more - which is not how anybody I know moves.&nbsp; The normal person is walking for 6 seconds and traveling at the same overall rate, losing no actions.J</blockquote>

[QUOTE="drnuncheon, post: 501297, member: 96"] But 'thirty feet' is [b]not[/b] a speed. "thirty feet per time period X" is a speed. What is time period X? That's what I'm getting at. I think TPX is 'one round'. Other folks think it's 'one move action'. Right. And since overland movement is generally considered to be walking, we see from that that you go 15' in a full round (2 move actions) of moving silently. It sure does! That's what that table (page 143) in the PHB is that we keep pointing out to you. One round, walk, 30 ft. First line of the table (barring headers and such). You can tell that the 30 feet is a double move, because the next line (hustle) says you can move 60 ft per round at a hustle. It is no coincidence that this is the typical distance you travel during a double move in combat... So you're not 'losing actions' when you move overland. Remember, if you're moving 30' in a round and doing something else then you are hustling - and you can't keep up a hustle all day. (That's on the same page, BTW, top of the second column.) Your example person who is "losing actions" is jogging for 3 seconds, stopping for 3, jogging for 3 more - which is not how anybody I know moves. The normal person is walking for 6 seconds and traveling at the same overall rate, losing no actions. J [/QUOTE]

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