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<blockquote data-quote="zeela" data-source="post: 374017" data-attributes="member: 7639"><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> I know, I was asking for that one. I see your point. The only problem is, are you saying that since I can't hear if the rogue is tumbling by or walking by I shouldn't get an AoO? In that case we're back to - why even tumble? But if you don't tumble, and I hear you, you provoke an AoO, so I do get my attack. So you tumble to avoid that. But do I know you're tumbling? No, so I don't know I don't get to make an AoO, but I think I do, but ... aaaargl.I would say this requires some flavor-talk on the DM's side. Kind of like if you roll at 18 to hit somebody with AC 20 who is wearing heavy armor, you probably don't actually miss, but you hit the armor which protects the character.In this case you could say the character attempts to hit the rogue but since he's tumbling by he doesn't hit because the rogue didn't really provoke an AoO. Since this is just for flavor and he really didn't get an AoO anyway, this 'failed attempt' would of course not count against his AoOs for that roundSame with casting on the defensive. I mean, if we really try to disect this we could say that some fighter in the middle of battle wouldn't know if a spellcaster is casting defensively or not, even if the spellcaster is invisible. It's harder on the spellcaster because he is trying not to let his guard down but still concentrate on the spell, but does the fighter realize that? I don't know about that...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zeela, post: 374017, member: 7639"] :-) I know, I was asking for that one. I see your point. The only problem is, are you saying that since I can't hear if the rogue is tumbling by or walking by I shouldn't get an AoO? In that case we're back to - why even tumble? But if you don't tumble, and I hear you, you provoke an AoO, so I do get my attack. So you tumble to avoid that. But do I know you're tumbling? No, so I don't know I don't get to make an AoO, but I think I do, but ... aaaargl. I would say this requires some flavor-talk on the DM's side. Kind of like if you roll at 18 to hit somebody with AC 20 who is wearing heavy armor, you probably don't actually miss, but you hit the armor which protects the character. In this case you could say the character attempts to hit the rogue but since he's tumbling by he doesn't hit because the rogue didn't really provoke an AoO. Since this is just for flavor and he really didn't get an AoO anyway, this 'failed attempt' would of course not count against his AoOs for that round Same with casting on the defensive. I mean, if we really try to disect this we could say that some fighter in the middle of battle wouldn't know if a spellcaster is casting defensively or not, even if the spellcaster is invisible. It's harder on the spellcaster because he is trying not to let his guard down but still concentrate on the spell, but does the fighter realize that? I don't know about that... [/QUOTE]

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