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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zeela" data-source="post: 374402" data-attributes="member: 7639">jontherev -What seems to be my problem? Actually, I don't think tumble is overpowered, and I wouldn't want to change it. In general, I am hesitant when it comes to house rules because I don't feel I could possible think of all the scenarios I might unbalance by changing the rules...So I have nothing against the house rule, I just didn't like the suggestions about actually giving a bonus to the MS when you tumble. Since I didn't know the names before I finally did go back and found the posts:So you see, I really wasn't referring in any way to changing the way tumble works, I was replying to posts that had to do with moving silently and tumbling, which was the topic of this thread. I'm sorry if you felt my reply was in the wrong place...I wasn't referring to the -10 NPC suggested, but the actual ruling the DM made, which was a -5. I know armor check penalty covers your armor's noise while moving silently, but this was more for the funky somersaulting etc. But to tell you the truth, I could probably be convinced of a -2.I know, I saw. Like I said, by the time I re-read and noticed it was a joke it was already to late. There was already a reply to my post. Why go back and change it now? It would make it so the thread doesn't make sense. This way some people got a laugh out of my screw-up. But just to put an end to this I edited it saying that I got it. NPC:I don't completely understand. Do you mean that if you miss by more than 5, you provoke attacks of opportunity (the tumble fails), and make noise, if you fail by less then 5, then your move silently has a -5 modifier, and if you make the modified tumble check, then your move silently roll is unmodified?If I interpreted your suggestion correctly, I would say it sounds complicated, but it does actually not sound bad, because it would account for the fact that somebody with lots of ranks in tumble is better at it and has an easier time tumbling 'differently' to try to be silent. hm....</blockquote>

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