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<blockquote data-quote="TaranTheWanderer" data-source="post: 8559623" data-attributes="member: 15882">Nah.&nbsp; He just came from 3.5 where there were multiple ‘move actions’ and was confused.&nbsp; I’m just trying to get confirmation. [USER=20564]@Blue[/USER] the difference between web and this spell is web requires your action to escape.&nbsp; This does not.&nbsp; It just says, ‘if you want to move’ you must succeed the check.&nbsp; So you could still try to move and then do an action.&nbsp; If you caught in the centre of the whirlpool, you have to start making saving throws to escape or take damage.&nbsp; That part is more like web@[USER=19270]toucanbuzz[/USER]Well, not just 5 feet of movement. He has 5 feet of movement which triggers the check.&nbsp; fails, uses his main action to dash, triggers a check and fails, uses cunning action to trigger a check and fails.&nbsp; He's used all his action and has done nothing for the round.&nbsp; (but this is how 3.5 did 'move actions'.&nbsp; I think this is where the confusion was.)&nbsp; The thing is, he wasn't IN the whirlpool.&nbsp; He was 25 feet from the whirlpool.&nbsp; Being in the whirlpool is like being caught in web or Black Tentacles:&nbsp;&nbsp; You're stuck and take damage unless you make a save.&nbsp; Being outside the whirlpool but within 25 feet pulls you 10 feet closer and trying to move requires a check....so it feels like two different things to me.[USER=59848]@Hawk Diesel[/USER] the character also had fly cast on him.&nbsp; Fly, water walking and water breathing.&nbsp;&nbsp; Then he plunged into his own ally’s control water spell to try to save another, paralyzed, ally.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TaranTheWanderer, post: 8559623, member: 15882"] Nah. He just came from 3.5 where there were multiple ‘move actions’ and was confused. I’m just trying to get confirmation. [USER=20564]@Blue[/USER] the difference between web and this spell is web requires your action to escape. This does not. It just says, ‘if you want to move’ you must succeed the check. So you could still try to move and then do an action. If you caught in the centre of the whirlpool, you have to start making saving throws to escape or take damage. That part is more like web @[USER=19270]toucanbuzz[/USER] Well, not just 5 feet of movement. He has 5 feet of movement which triggers the check. fails, uses his main action to dash, triggers a check and fails, uses cunning action to trigger a check and fails. He's used all his action and has done nothing for the round. (but this is how 3.5 did 'move actions'. I think this is where the confusion was.) The thing is, he wasn't IN the whirlpool. He was 25 feet from the whirlpool. Being in the whirlpool is like being caught in web or Black Tentacles: You're stuck and take damage unless you make a save. Being outside the whirlpool but within 25 feet pulls you 10 feet closer and trying to move requires a check....so it feels like two different things to me. [USER=59848]@Hawk Diesel[/USER] the character also had fly cast on him. Fly, water walking and water breathing. Then he plunged into his own ally’s control water spell to try to save another, paralyzed, ally. [/QUOTE]

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