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<blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 8560880" data-attributes="member: 90374"><p><em>The Republic </em>by Plato. Or mostly just stories about Socrates. I appreciate his notion of not knowing anything and his argument approach in asking questions. </p><p></p><p><em>Rhetoric: Discovery and Change</em> Rhetoric textbook (1970). Not necessarily this textbook, but it is often cited as the source of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9knvRXU8zQ" target="_blank">Rogerian argument</a>. If you really want to learn how to have honest and purposeful discussions, Rogerian argument is a great method. Applying it to your own points, essays, postings, etc... Will have a positive effect on your connections and help you avoid traps like one true Scotsman or badwrongfun. Also, its a great exercise for folks who fall into the trap of just waiting for their turn to speak. </p><p></p><p><em>Getting to Yes</em> by Roger Fisher and William Ury. Getting to Yes is a short form book about negotiation and finding agreement. The key piece of information contained within is that you should always focus on <em>interests </em>and not <em>positions</em>. This is a key element, in my opinion, that is missing from much political discussion today. Folks are so focused on their position solution, they don't realize their are options in the middle that can help everyone. Folks often fall into the trap of making perfect the enemy of good. Thinking about interests between you and your negotiating parties is incredibly good advice when it comes to reaching agreement in negotiation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="payn, post: 8560880, member: 90374"] [I]The Republic [/I]by Plato. Or mostly just stories about Socrates. I appreciate his notion of not knowing anything and his argument approach in asking questions. [I]Rhetoric: Discovery and Change[/I] Rhetoric textbook (1970). Not necessarily this textbook, but it is often cited as the source of [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9knvRXU8zQ']Rogerian argument[/URL]. If you really want to learn how to have honest and purposeful discussions, Rogerian argument is a great method. Applying it to your own points, essays, postings, etc... Will have a positive effect on your connections and help you avoid traps like one true Scotsman or badwrongfun. Also, its a great exercise for folks who fall into the trap of just waiting for their turn to speak. [I]Getting to Yes[/I] by Roger Fisher and William Ury. Getting to Yes is a short form book about negotiation and finding agreement. The key piece of information contained within is that you should always focus on [I]interests [/I]and not [I]positions[/I]. This is a key element, in my opinion, that is missing from much political discussion today. Folks are so focused on their position solution, they don't realize their are options in the middle that can help everyone. Folks often fall into the trap of making perfect the enemy of good. Thinking about interests between you and your negotiating parties is incredibly good advice when it comes to reaching agreement in negotiation. [/QUOTE]
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