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<blockquote data-quote="pezagent" data-source="post: 1272388" data-attributes="member: 15568"><p><strong>John Hughes vs. Quentin Tarantino</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>From Sixteen Candles:</strong></p><p></p><p>GEEK: How’s it going? </p><p></p><p>SAM: How’s what going? </p><p></p><p>GEEK: You know, things, life, whatnot. </p><p></p><p>SAM: Life is not whatnot, and it’s none of your business. </p><p></p><p>GEEK: So you going to the dance tonight? </p><p></p><p>SAM: That’s also none of your business. </p><p></p><p>GEEK: (laughs) Are you inhibited about dancing in public? You don’t have to dance. You could just stand there with me and my dudes, and just be you. </p><p></p><p>SAM: Sounds major.</p><p> </p><p>GEEK: So what’s the story, you got a guy or what? </p><p></p><p>SAM: Yes, three big ones and they lust wimp blood, so quit bugging me or I’ll sick them all over your weenie ass.</p><p> </p><p>GEEK: You know I’m getting input here that I’m reading is relatively hostile. I mean I just…</p><p></p><p>SAM: Go to hell. </p><p></p><p>GEEK: Very hostile. Come on, what’s the problem here, I’m a boy, you’re a girl…is there something wrong with my trying to put together some kind of relationship between us. </p><p></p><p><em>The bus begins to slow down and Sam gets her stuff together to get off but he won’t let her.</em></p><p></p><p>GEEK: Okay look, I know you have to go, just answer me one question. </p><p></p><p>SAM: Yes, you’re a total fag. </p><p></p><p>GEEK: (laughs) That wasn’t the question. (pause) Am I turning you on? </p><p></p><p><em>Sam rolls her eyes and gets up and off the bus. The Geek leans back and talks to the girl in the neck brace.</em> </p><p></p><p>GEEK: It’s encouraging, very encouraging. </p><p></p><p>GIRL: Uh-huh. </p><p></p><p>GEEK: You know a girl with a hat is just…whoa…vogue. </p><p></p><p>GIRL: Uh…yeah. </p><p></p><p><strong>From Pulp-Fiction:</strong></p><p></p><p><em>Buddy comes back with the drinks. Mia wraps her lips around the straw of her shake.</em></p><p></p><p>MIA: Yummy!</p><p></p><p>VINCENT: Can I have a sip of that? I'd like to know what a five-dollar shake tastes like.</p><p></p><p>MIA: Be my guest. <em>She slides the shake over to him.</em></p><p></p><p>MIA: You can use my straw, I don't have kooties.</p><p></p><p><em>Vincent smiles.</em></p><p></p><p>VINCENT: Yeah, but maybe I do.</p><p></p><p>MIA:Kooties I can handle.</p><p></p><p><em>He takes a sip.</em></p><p></p><p>VINCENT: Goddamn! That's a pretty f6ckin' good milk shake.</p><p></p><p>MIA: Told ya.</p><p></p><p>VINCENT: I don't know if it's worth five dollars, but it's pretty f6ckin' good.</p><p></p><p><em>He slides the shake back. Then the first of an uncomfortable silence happens.</em></p><p></p><p>MIA: Don't you hate that?</p><p></p><p>VINCENT: What?</p><p></p><p>MIA: Uncomfortable silences. Why do we feel it's necessary to yak about bullsh6t in order to be comfortable?</p><p></p><p>VINCENT: I don't know.</p><p></p><p>MIA: That's when you know you found somebody special. When you can just shut the f6ck up for a minute, and comfortably share silence.</p><p></p><p>VINCENT: I don't think we're there yet. But don't feel bad, we just met each other.</p><p></p><p>MIA: Well I'll tell you what, I'll go to the bathroom and powder my nose, while you sit here and think of something to say.</p><p></p><p>VINCENT: I'll do that.</p><p></p><p>--------</p><p></p><p>Maybe if the characters in Pulp Fiction were actually <em>doing</em> something (as Aristotle said, action is character) then all this dialog treatment would be great. But for me it's always like watching people read scripts from a scenewriting class. Pulp Fiction is like a bad play--and that's why I suggested perhaps reading some <em>good</em> plays if one found this sort of dialog treatment interesting. I suggested John Guare's <em>House of Blue Leaves</em> as it treats contemporary dialog with wit and charm. It doesn't butcher it or paint it over the character's face. It subtly <em>reveals</em> the character inside--even though it is all rather absurd, rather than hiding the characters behind paper-mache masks as Tarantino's work does. His characters are pre-teens smoking because they think it makes them look cool. Hughes characters <em>are</em> teenagers trying to look cool. There's the only difference.</p><p></p><p>Tarantino's crap could be just as interesting if the lead roles were replaced by parrots or even better--sock puppets. (The only scene worth watching in PF is the one with Christopher Walken) Pulp Fiction will never be added to my collection of DVDs--his movies are very <em>empty</em>. One could usually find the same conversations in the mens room at the now defunct <em>Twilo</em> of New York or any trendy restaurant with Eurotrash present. The only movie I actually enjoyed of his was <em>True Romance</em> and that's because it had Patricia Arquette in it and it was directed by Tony Scott.</p><p></p><p>/johnny <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pezagent, post: 1272388, member: 15568"] [b]John Hughes vs. Quentin Tarantino[/b] [b]From Sixteen Candles:[/b] GEEK: How’s it going? SAM: How’s what going? GEEK: You know, things, life, whatnot. SAM: Life is not whatnot, and it’s none of your business. GEEK: So you going to the dance tonight? SAM: That’s also none of your business. GEEK: (laughs) Are you inhibited about dancing in public? You don’t have to dance. You could just stand there with me and my dudes, and just be you. SAM: Sounds major. GEEK: So what’s the story, you got a guy or what? SAM: Yes, three big ones and they lust wimp blood, so quit bugging me or I’ll sick them all over your weenie ass. GEEK: You know I’m getting input here that I’m reading is relatively hostile. I mean I just… SAM: Go to hell. GEEK: Very hostile. Come on, what’s the problem here, I’m a boy, you’re a girl…is there something wrong with my trying to put together some kind of relationship between us. [I]The bus begins to slow down and Sam gets her stuff together to get off but he won’t let her.[/I] GEEK: Okay look, I know you have to go, just answer me one question. SAM: Yes, you’re a total fag. GEEK: (laughs) That wasn’t the question. (pause) Am I turning you on? [I]Sam rolls her eyes and gets up and off the bus. The Geek leans back and talks to the girl in the neck brace.[/I] GEEK: It’s encouraging, very encouraging. GIRL: Uh-huh. GEEK: You know a girl with a hat is just…whoa…vogue. GIRL: Uh…yeah. [b]From Pulp-Fiction:[/b] [i]Buddy comes back with the drinks. Mia wraps her lips around the straw of her shake.[/i] MIA: Yummy! VINCENT: Can I have a sip of that? I'd like to know what a five-dollar shake tastes like. MIA: Be my guest. [i]She slides the shake over to him.[/i] MIA: You can use my straw, I don't have kooties. [i]Vincent smiles.[/i] VINCENT: Yeah, but maybe I do. MIA:Kooties I can handle. [i]He takes a sip.[/i] VINCENT: Goddamn! That's a pretty f6ckin' good milk shake. MIA: Told ya. VINCENT: I don't know if it's worth five dollars, but it's pretty f6ckin' good. [i]He slides the shake back. Then the first of an uncomfortable silence happens.[/i] MIA: Don't you hate that? VINCENT: What? MIA: Uncomfortable silences. Why do we feel it's necessary to yak about bullsh6t in order to be comfortable? VINCENT: I don't know. MIA: That's when you know you found somebody special. When you can just shut the f6ck up for a minute, and comfortably share silence. VINCENT: I don't think we're there yet. But don't feel bad, we just met each other. MIA: Well I'll tell you what, I'll go to the bathroom and powder my nose, while you sit here and think of something to say. VINCENT: I'll do that. -------- Maybe if the characters in Pulp Fiction were actually [i]doing[/i] something (as Aristotle said, action is character) then all this dialog treatment would be great. But for me it's always like watching people read scripts from a scenewriting class. Pulp Fiction is like a bad play--and that's why I suggested perhaps reading some [i]good[/i] plays if one found this sort of dialog treatment interesting. I suggested John Guare's [i]House of Blue Leaves[/i] as it treats contemporary dialog with wit and charm. It doesn't butcher it or paint it over the character's face. It subtly [i]reveals[/i] the character inside--even though it is all rather absurd, rather than hiding the characters behind paper-mache masks as Tarantino's work does. His characters are pre-teens smoking because they think it makes them look cool. Hughes characters [i]are[/i] teenagers trying to look cool. There's the only difference. Tarantino's crap could be just as interesting if the lead roles were replaced by parrots or even better--sock puppets. (The only scene worth watching in PF is the one with Christopher Walken) Pulp Fiction will never be added to my collection of DVDs--his movies are very [i]empty[/i]. One could usually find the same conversations in the mens room at the now defunct [i]Twilo[/i] of New York or any trendy restaurant with Eurotrash present. The only movie I actually enjoyed of his was [i]True Romance[/i] and that's because it had Patricia Arquette in it and it was directed by Tony Scott. /johnny :) [/QUOTE]
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