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<blockquote data-quote="pezagent" data-source="post: 1272468" data-attributes="member: 15568"><p>That's your interpretation. Perhaps if you asked for clarification before jumping to conclusions we wouldn't be having this next generation conversation. I'm not responsible for your interpretation of my opinions. That's why people ask questions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well that's fine, but I seriously don't understand what you're talking about. That's why I'm asking you what you're talking about. I don't know what a "messed up" situation is. I also don't understand the "wish fulfillment for geeks power fantasy" stuff. Could you be more specific by citing actual movies? This might help the conversation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you're going to stereotype people by assuming that all anime fans don't know the good stuff from the sex anime? So if the only Native American you knew murdered your best friend then all Native Americans are murderers as well? This is <em>all or nothing</em> thinking. The world isn't black and white, good or bad. Just because one Anime movie has half-naked chicks running around in bikinis all the time doesn't mean they <em>all</em> do. <strong>Lain</strong> is a great example of very thoughtful and deep sci-fi Anime.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do they? I think you're generalizing. There's no proof to suggest fans of one genre are different than fans of another. This is absurd. You're trying to prove your point within a limited personal opinion. (I'm not saying that <em>you're</em> limited, I'm saying that all opinions are limited unless specifically attempting to be objective. Even in marketing practices surveys are often biased when they imply they are objective.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I was wondering when somebody was going to bring up Krull. But once again you're stating personal opinion, which I can probably trust because I think you're a fantasy-movie goer. So why wouldn't you trust an Anime fan?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, we're talking about the same movie. That you found it stupid may reflect your own personality, not mine. Most people I know and enjoy spending time with find it to be one of the best Anime movies ever made. Even Roger Ebert liked it. (?) In regards to the "hero anime cliché"--what other sorts of hero's do you know of? Have you read Joseph's Campbell's <em>Hero of 1,000 faces?</em> There is ultimately only one type of hero that takes many types of journeys at different times in life. You seem to be implying that anime hero's are different than other types of heros. Is this so? It's not true. A hero is a hero is a hero. One learns in the early stages of one's writing career that <em>all great stories have already been told.</em> It's only by rejuxtaposition that hopefully people find <em>new meaning</em> in stories. That's all there is to it. And Ninja Scroll tells a very common tale of a hero's journey, and it does it beautifully. It's a real joy to watch. I think you are jaded for some reason. Maybe you had a bad experience, ate some bad Japanese food or something...???</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said that your opinion is the result of a lack of education, did I? Or was that your interpretation of what I posted?</p><p></p><p>/johnny <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pezagent, post: 1272468, member: 15568"] That's your interpretation. Perhaps if you asked for clarification before jumping to conclusions we wouldn't be having this next generation conversation. I'm not responsible for your interpretation of my opinions. That's why people ask questions. Well that's fine, but I seriously don't understand what you're talking about. That's why I'm asking you what you're talking about. I don't know what a "messed up" situation is. I also don't understand the "wish fulfillment for geeks power fantasy" stuff. Could you be more specific by citing actual movies? This might help the conversation. So you're going to stereotype people by assuming that all anime fans don't know the good stuff from the sex anime? So if the only Native American you knew murdered your best friend then all Native Americans are murderers as well? This is [i]all or nothing[/i] thinking. The world isn't black and white, good or bad. Just because one Anime movie has half-naked chicks running around in bikinis all the time doesn't mean they [i]all[/i] do. [b]Lain[/b] is a great example of very thoughtful and deep sci-fi Anime. Do they? I think you're generalizing. There's no proof to suggest fans of one genre are different than fans of another. This is absurd. You're trying to prove your point within a limited personal opinion. (I'm not saying that [i]you're[/i] limited, I'm saying that all opinions are limited unless specifically attempting to be objective. Even in marketing practices surveys are often biased when they imply they are objective.) I was wondering when somebody was going to bring up Krull. But once again you're stating personal opinion, which I can probably trust because I think you're a fantasy-movie goer. So why wouldn't you trust an Anime fan? Yes, we're talking about the same movie. That you found it stupid may reflect your own personality, not mine. Most people I know and enjoy spending time with find it to be one of the best Anime movies ever made. Even Roger Ebert liked it. (?) In regards to the "hero anime cliché"--what other sorts of hero's do you know of? Have you read Joseph's Campbell's [i]Hero of 1,000 faces?[/i] There is ultimately only one type of hero that takes many types of journeys at different times in life. You seem to be implying that anime hero's are different than other types of heros. Is this so? It's not true. A hero is a hero is a hero. One learns in the early stages of one's writing career that [i]all great stories have already been told.[/i] It's only by rejuxtaposition that hopefully people find [i]new meaning[/i] in stories. That's all there is to it. And Ninja Scroll tells a very common tale of a hero's journey, and it does it beautifully. It's a real joy to watch. I think you are jaded for some reason. Maybe you had a bad experience, ate some bad Japanese food or something...??? I never said that your opinion is the result of a lack of education, did I? Or was that your interpretation of what I posted? /johnny :) [/QUOTE]
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