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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ghile Morduk" data-source="post: 205261" data-attributes="member: 4780">Move Silently with a spiked chain ?Ok all,       Ok, by definition thw akill move silently imparts the ability to 'move silently'. Now that is not a far stretch but consider this, you are skilled at sneaking, and happen to be carrying a pouch of coins, you wrap it tight and stick it in a safe cozy spot. Is it quiet ? well if i did it, HELL YA. The point is this, you are SKILLED at moving silently. Unless you want to start saying you thief forgot his training or how to make himself silent. Which makes no sense. He would know how to place anything he is carrying in an unobtrusive and hopefully silent spot, thus the roll you make when rolling for move silently.      Now as far as a noisy spiked chain. I believe in one of the old books, thieves handbook, it once explained how to make a suit of chain mail silent. To me this works quite nicely with any chain type weapon as well. What is done is thus : weave cloth in between the links making a buffer for the links if they strike one another, thus muffling (not silencing) the movement of the chains. Now do this with a spiked chain, a flial, whipping chain, etc. and you effectively have a quieter than normal chain weapon.      But thats just me... what do i know... 8)</blockquote>